<div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-variant-ligatures:normal">Hi,</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-variant-ligatures:normal"><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-variant-ligatures:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-variant-ligatures:normal">I would like to have the IRR kept open, we have space from various</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-variant-ligatures:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-variant-ligatures:normal">regions and need to be able to make use of a single well known IRR in</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-variant-ligatures:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-variant-ligatures:normal">order to register our policies and be able to mix our ASNs with our</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-variant-ligatures:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-variant-ligatures:normal">space.</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-variant-ligatures:normal"><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-variant-ligatures:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-variant-ligatures:normal">It is very convenient to be able to use the RIPE IRR for that.</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-variant-ligatures:normal"><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-variant-ligatures:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-variant-ligatures:normal">I do see that authentication/verification against other RIR's Database</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-variant-ligatures:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-variant-ligatures:normal">is not done at the moment and can be abused and will support any</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-variant-ligatures:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-variant-ligatures:normal">simple mechanism put in place in order to fix that issue.</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-variant-ligatures:normal"><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-variant-ligatures:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-variant-ligatures:normal">But closing the IRR down for out of region resources far outweighs the</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-variant-ligatures:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-variant-ligatures:normal">negative side effects seen by typos and abuses that comes through from</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-variant-ligatures:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-variant-ligatures:normal">time to time.</span><br><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-variant-ligatures:normal"><br></span></div><div style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 20 July 2017 at 15:41, Gert Doering via db-wg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:db-wg@ripe.net" target="_blank">db-wg@ripe.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Gert Doering <<a href="mailto:gert@space.net">gert@space.net</a>><br>To: Sander Steffann <<a href="mailto:sander@steffann.nl">sander@steffann.nl</a>><br>Cc: George Michaelson <<a href="mailto:ggm@algebras.org">ggm@algebras.org</a>>, denis walker <<a href="mailto:ripedenis@yahoo.co.uk">ripedenis@yahoo.co.uk</a>>, Database WG <<a href="mailto:db-wg@ripe.net">db-wg@ripe.net</a>><br>Bcc: <br>Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 09:41:09 +0200<br>Subject: Re: [db-wg] out of region routing in the RIPE Database<br>Hi,<br> <br> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 04:10:52PM +0200, Sander Steffann via db-wg wrote:<br> > > its a broken process. it inherently permits things to be said, which<br> > > should not have been said.<br> ><br> > Time to set up a joint IRR database where only authoritative data from participating RIRs is stored?<br> <br> This might indeed be the way forward for "I have a customer in my RIPE<br> AS which has APNIC space and wants to document that in a way that that<br> provisioning tools can pick this with sufficient trust on data quality".<br> <br> (And no, RADB is not)<br> <br> Gert Doering<br> -- NetMaster<br> --<br> have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?<br> <br> SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard<br> Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann<br> D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen)<br> Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279<br> <br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>--<br>Kind regards.<br>Lu<br><br></div></div></div> </div>