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[db-wg] Proposal to allow non-ASCII characters in "org-name:", "person:" and "role:" attributes
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Edward Shryane
eshryane at ripe.net
Tue May 28 11:27:32 CEST 2024
Dear colleagues, There was a question about UTF-8 support by major Whois providers during last week's DB-WG session at RIPE88. During the UTF-8 discussion in December I checked the other RIRs as follows: LACNIC: only Latin-1 encoded characters are accepted in updates (UTF-8 is ignored) but UTF-8 is returned on port 43. Example: whois -h whois.lacnic.net PAP12 APNIC: only Latin-1 is returned Example: whois -h testwhois.apnic.net YYYYMMDD-MNT Subsequently I tested the other RIRs to be sure: ARIN: UTF-8 is supported in the RPSL object and UTF-8 is returned on port 43. Example: whois -h whois.arin.net POC SHRYA12-ARIN AFRINIC: UTF-8 characters are accepted in updates and UTF-8 is returned on port 43. Example: whois -h whois.afrinic.net SHRYANE-MNT RIPE stores Latin-1 and returns Latin-1 on port 43. So in summary, 3 RIRs return UTF-8 and 2 RIRs return Latin-1 on port 43. Regards Ed Shryane RIPE NCC > On 2 May 2024, at 16:02, Edward Shryane <eshryane at ripe.net> wrote: > > Dear colleagues, > > To follow-up on the UTF-8 discusssion in January, the DB team plans to implement support for UTF-8 in 3 phases: > > (1) Add a flag to allow a client to choose a character set > > In the Whois release 1.112, we have added the "-Z / --charset" query flag to allow clients to specify which character set they expect. The server response will encode RPSL objects using that character set. > > This new flag can already be tested in the RC environment, e.g. the SHRYANE-MNT object contains "remarks:" attributes with non-ASCII (but still latin-1) characters: > > $ whois -h whois-rc.ripe.net -r shryane-mnt > $ whois -h whois-rc.ripe.net -r -Z utf8 shryane-mnt > > This flag has no impact on the default behaviour of the RIPE database. This change only affects port 43, and the default character set remains latin-1. > > This flag will already be useful for example, to capture responses as UTF-8 to file or use UTF-8 encoding in your terminal. In future, if the default on port 43 changes to UTF-8, then clients can keep latin-1 by using "-Z/--charset latin1". > > (2) Convert the database schema to UTF-8 > > In the following Whois release, the DB team plans to switch the RIPE database schema character set from latin-1 to UTF-8. This will allow Whois to store UTF-8 strings in the database index tables. > > Switching the database schema character set will involve about 1 hour of downtime to Whois updates, and Whois queries will not be affected. We will announce this change in advance. > > This change will have no impact on the default behaviour of the RIPE database. All interfaces will behave as before, and RPSL objects will remain latin-1 encoded internally. > > (3) Allow UTF-8 to be used in RPSL objects > > Once the RIPE database schema supports the UTF-8 character set, the DB team will create a further Whois release that will allow UTF-8 to be used in RPSL objects, in addition to the index tables. > > The default behaviour of the RIPE database will remain the same. All interfaces will behave as before, but RPSL objects will use UTF-8 internally. > > In future, if the DB-WG decides to allow UTF-8 characters in RPSL, the database will already support it. > > Regards > Ed Shryane > RIPE NCC > > >> On 18 Jan 2024, at 10:34, Edward Shryane <eshryane at ripe.net> wrote: >> >> Dear colleagues, >> >> Based on the discussion regarding UTF-8 in the RIPE database during the interim meeting yesterday, I suggest that we implement support for UTF-8 in the database (i.e. convert the schema and add a flag to allow a client to choose a character set), but we do not allow additional characters for now, pending further DB-WG discussion. Our intention is to lay the groundwork for future support, without breaking existing functionality. If you have any concerns or objections please let me know. >> >> We will now prepare an implementation plan / impact analysis of these changes. >> >> Regards >> Ed Shryane >> RIPE NCC >> >> >>> On 24 Nov 2023, at 10:03, Edward Shryane via db-wg <db-wg at ripe.net> wrote: >>> >>> Dear colleagues, >>> >>> Currently the RIPE database only allows a subset of ASCII characters in the "org-name:", "person:" and "role:" attributes, for a few reasons including: >>> >>> * These attributes are also a look-up key and the Whois protocol does not allow specifying character sets in queries. >>> * RPSL names are ASCII according to RFC2622 >>> * Using a normalised name makes the object easier to query >>> * Reading a normalised name is easier to interpret >>> >>> However there are some drawbacks to forcing names to only use a subset of ASCII characters: >>> >>> * Organisations, roles and persons cannot use their actual name if it includes characters outside this subset. >>> * Normalisation is not standard, but is an interpretation done by each maintainer, e.g. characters could be excluded or converted in different ways. >>> >>> Since we support the Latin-1 character set in the RIPE database, I propose we also allow non-ASCII Latin-1 characters in these attributes. >>> >>> Querying for a name can be done either using the latin-1 characters (proposed) or a normalised, ASCII representation (currently). The normalised version will be generated by Whois and stored in a database index for querying. The primary key will also be generated from the normalised version. >>> >>> Please let me know your feedback. >>> >>> Regards >>> Ed Shryane >>> RIPE NCC >>> >>> --- >>> >>> Whois attribute verbose description (copied from the help text). >>> >>> org-name >>> -------- >>> Specifies the name of the organisation that this organisation object >>> represents in the RIPE Database. This is an ASCII-only text attribute. >>> The restriction is because this attribute is a look-up key and the >>> whois protocol does not allow specifying character sets in queries. >>> The user can put the name of the organisation in non-ASCII character >>> sets in the "descr:" attribute if required. >>> >>> A list of 1 to 30 words separated by white space. >>> A word is made up of ASCII alphanumeric characters and additionally: ][)(._"*@,&:!'`+/- >>> A word may have up to 64 characters and is not case sensitive. >>> Each word can have any combination of the above characters with no restriction on the start or end of a word. >>> >>> person >>> ------ >>> Specifies the full name of an administrative, technical or zone >>> contact person for other objects in the database. >>> >>> It should contain 2 to 10 words. >>> A word is made up of ASCII alphanumeric characters and additionally: .`'_- >>> The first word should begin with a letter. >>> At least one other word should also begin with a letter. >>> Max 64 characters can be used in each word. >>> >>> role >>> ---- >>> Specifies the full name of a role entity, e.g. RIPE DBM. >>> >>> A list of 1 to 30 words separated by white space. >>> A word is made up of ASCII alphanumeric characters and additionally: ][)(._"*@,&:!'`+/- >>> A word may have up to 64 characters and is not case sensitive. >>> Each word can have any combination of the above characters with no restriction on the start or end of a word. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://mailman.ripe.net/ >> >
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