[db-wg] Complying with Mail Provider Requirements When Sending Mail from Whois

On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 at 07:51, Lutz Donnerhacke via db-wg <db-wg at ripe.net> wrote:
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> * Denis Walker wrote:
> > But looking through lots of email notifications about changes that you
> > already know about, because you did them, and maybe in the middle is a
> > notification of an attempted security breach that failed on
> > authentication (that you may miss), doesn't that also eat up brain
> > cycles?
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> Please do not assume that LIR activities are single handed everywhere.
> Several LIRs do have an automation (i.e. netbox) to update the RIPE DB.
> Others might have multiple independent people working with RIPE on
> their own behalf. So notifications, especially the notify: attribute
> are currently in use.
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> > So how about a compromise. A full audit trail of all details of all
> > changes to all your data available by default  to designated people
> > through your portal account. Plus a daily email summarising all the
> > changes also sent to people whose email addresses are set up in the
> > portal account. So still no notif email addresses needed all across
> > the database. This could even be done per maintainer.
>
> How about using the notify: attribute for notifications?

So we just stay where we are, yet again, with the NCC sending out tens
of thousands of emails every day to some of the almost a million email
addresses in the database and you all continue to get spam sent to
those harvested email addresses. And you continue to get half an audit
trail sent to your notify addresses. As the environment the database
operates in continues to move forward, the database just limps on to
the next problem and we hope we can patch it up again to keep it
working. Even if that means a slightly further degraded system like
blocking email addresses we have to do now.

cheers
denis
co-chair DB-WG

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