[db-wg] email's disappeared from RDAP output

I'm fine with being held accountable to a daily limit (  I don't on
board that many new accounts anyway per day ),  however the main issue
is now I no longer know of a way to get the email addresses ( and I
guess be held accountable to a daily limit )  from something that
looks ”machine readable” ( aka whois or RDAP )

Is there some kind of magic flag I can pass into the RDAP system to
get personal data and be held against a limit?  I'm not sure I know of
a way also to get the email addresses out of the whois interface
either,  meaning I am simply left with scraping the website (something
I really don't want to do)

On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 10:38 AM Miguel Herran <mherran at ripe.net> wrote:
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> Good Afternoon Ben,
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> This change was made as part of 1.109 release. We added that attribute into the redacted field
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> and removed it from the RDAP entity.
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> Email is considered to be personal data, so we must be consistent between our APIs and keep
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> it filtered in all of them. If an email address is returned, this is accounted agains a daily limit
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> according to the Acceptable Use Policy , so your IP will get blocked if you request too many objects
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> which have personal attributes like email.
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> We are open to discussion, so if there is an agreement in db-wg we will investigate how to include
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> personal data in the RDAP response.
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> Thanks
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> Miguel
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> On 4 Jan 2024, at 17:39, Ben Cartwright-Cox via db-wg <db-wg at ripe.net> wrote:
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> Hi everybody,
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> I was just re-running some tests internally within bgp.tools and I've
> noticed that the RDAP responses from RIPE no longer include the email
> address of the person object. For example I used to (and expected) to
> get the email address in the object for
> https://rdap.db.ripe.net/entity/BC6775-RIPE, but it seems to have been
> removed from the output at some point.
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> That does not appear to be a way to log in to authenticate
> trustworthiness of RDAP  responses,  is there any other way to get
> this information?  I can see this information on the RIPE website  (
> https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/lookup?source=ripe&key=BC6775-RIPE&type=person
> ) but I do not want to scrape that, and this information is incredibly
> useful for helping users onboard ( with a trustworthy email address )
> to services like bgp.tools.
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> Is this an intended change? Have I done something silly? All of the above ;) ?
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> By looking at the release info I can see it was added in November (#1333)
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> Thanks
> Ben
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