[db-wg] 2022-01 Resource holders identity

Hi Leo

On Tue, 31 May 2022 at 21:04, Leo Vegoda <leo at vegoda.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 7:30 AM denis walker via db-wg <db-wg at ripe.net> wrote:
> >
> > Colleagues
> >
> > Now we move on to the more difficult issue of identifying resource
> > holders.
>
> What do you mean by "resource holders"? Are you referring to someone
> who has resources allocated or assigned to them directly by the RIPE
> NCC? Or are you referring to someone whose resources come from an LIR
> or a level below that?

Both are in scope here. Where the resources are allocated or assigned
directly by the RIPE NCC, they reference a mandatory ORGANISATION
object that includes a mandatory name and address of the resource
holder. For assignments made by LIRs or from sub-allocations, the
INET(6)NUM frequently includes a full name and address in the "descr:"
attributes.

>
> [...]
>
> > Before we can decide on the priorities of privacy vs public interest,
> > we need to understand what that public interest is. How does that
> > public interest fit with the purpose of the database? We need to have
> > this discussion now on the purpose of the database and the public
> > interest, or not, in certain bits of data to decide if the identities
> > of natural persons holding resources can, should, must be hidden from
> > public view.
>
> It would also be good to understand whether this issue relates to a
> tiny fraction of the registrations. What proportion of registrations
> and what proportion of the registered number resources are we
> discussing?

It is almost impossible to write a script to analyse this unless the
script can recognise a natural person's name. But for a general idea I
flicked through the INETNUM split file on the FTP site and can see a
large number of names and addresses of people in the assignment
objects.

cheers
denis
proposal author

>
> Thanks,
>
> Leo