[db-wg] IRT object postal address

In message <CAKvLzuFZDSk11aW=j0ufpNs5i+-2bmDHFkJ7pQfaUu-nhhEiFQ at mail.gmail.com>
denis walker <ripedenis at gmail.com> wrote:

>During the conversion we had some time ago about contacts we concluded that
>no one is going to visit a contact or post them a letter.

No, "we" didn't.  Unless you are using the term "we" here in the royal sense.

>The IRT object also had a mandatory address attribute that is defined in
>the documentation as:
>
>"This is a full postal address for the business contact represented by this
>irt object."
>
>Does anyone think we actually need a postal address for a contact for a
>CSIRT team?

Yes.  I do.

You haven't yet answered _any_ of the fundamental questions I've asked
about your ongoing efforts to hide information, to wit:

*)  Other than you and Cynthia, who is asking for and/or demanding these
various deliberate obfuscation steps?

*)  Why is the hiding of information even a priority?

*)  What is the plan?  Who is going to do the work, when, and what is the
cost?

*)  Are these deliberate obfsucation steps still being justified on the
basis of GDPR, or do you now accept as fact that GDPR is irrelevant in
the context of the RIPE data base, and that it does not currently compel
RIPE to make any changes to the public WHOIS data base whatsoever?

*)  If the goal is to hide information, then why not just take the entire
RIPE WHOIS data base offline and hide the whole thing behind some sort of
permission-wall that can only be pierced with a legal warrant?

(That last question is, of course, the essential point, since that endpoint
seems rather clearly to be the direction in which this is all headed.)


Regards,
rfg


P.S.  I really don't care if I am the only one on this mailing list who
is representing the interests of law enforcement and legitimate security
researchers, or if I have to endure the slings and arrows that come with
that.  It's a tough job, but somebody has to push back against all of
these subtle incremental efforts to hide the WHOIS by chipping away at it,
little by little.