[db-wg] geofeed issue: can't add geofeed attribute to PI /48

Hi Ed,

Thanks for the work done.


On 21/02/2022 15:56, Edward Shryane via db-wg wrote:

> We will also start enforcing the same validation on "remarks: geofeed" as on "geofeed:" for consistency.

I think you should not enforce anything on remarks. For what I know, 
remarks have been a free text field up to now.

In my view:
(1) RIPE NCC promotes the "geofeed" field for the geofeed purpose, 
instead, using "remarks" it is not the practice suggested by RIPE NCC 
and so I don't believe it is RIPE NCC's responsibility;
(2) Users can always encode the same information in remarks without 
geofeed (which would just increase the mess and bypass the check);
(3) starting to validate the content of remarks creates a precedent in 
which RIPE NCC is responsible for checking remarks content (possibly, in 
the future, not only about geofeeds).

But I don't know anything about legal things, so this is just my point 
of view.


Ciao,
Massimo

> 
> Please let us know what you think. We would like to implement these changes soon and include them in a new Whois release 1.103.
> 
> Regards
> Ed Shryane
> RIPE NCC
> 
> 
>> On 3 Jan 2022, at 13:36, Job Snijders via db-wg <db-wg at ripe.net> wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Like all good netizens, I tried to align information I publish in the
>> RIPE database to reality, but there is an obstacle:
>>
>>     https://sobornost.net/~job/geofeed.png
>>
>>     """Adding or modifying the "geofeed:" attribute of an object with a
>>     prefix length greater or equal to 48 is not allowed."""
>>
>> No such restriction exists if you use the 'remarks: Geofeed' approach,
>> as demonstrated here:
>>
>>     $ whois -h whois.ripe.net 2001:67c:208c::/48 | grep Geofeed
>>     remarks:        Geofeed https://sobornost.net/geofeed.csv
>>
>> I appreciate concerns about privacy, but I'm not wholly convinced
>> restricting /48s from having a proper 'geofeed:' attribute is the best
>> path forward.
>>
>> How does the working group feel about this restriction? Is it useful?
>> Should it be lifted? If the latter, what would be the process?
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Job
>>
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