[db-wg] geolocation and current purposes

It is an optional attribute and as far as I know it is going to stay that
way.

-Cynthia

On Mon, 22 Aug 2022, 10:13 Horváth Ágoston János via db-wg, <db-wg at ripe.net>
wrote:

> I, for one, with my regular internet user hat on, am strongly against any
> form of geolocation and consider it an invasion of my privacy.
> I don't want any random guy on the internet to simply pinpoint the town
> I'm living in.
>
> Is there an opt-out from this? Users will demand that there is for sure.
>
> Just my $0.02
>
> Agoston
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 7:24 PM Carlos Friaças via db-wg <db-wg at ripe.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> A small comment inline:
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 4 Aug 2022, denis walker via db-wg wrote:
>>
>> (...)
>> > So in what ways is "geofeed:" going to make it easy for network
>> > operators to coordinate some activity? One of the ways network
>> > operators have talked about how they want/need to use "geofeed:" data
>> > is to provide content based on location of an IP address.
>>
>> Yes. Although *some* geolocation providers INSIST that their location
>> assessment is better than the owner's network. They do this by ignoring
>> messages or form data sent by owners.
>>
>> Keeping the attribute in the RIPE database may show ANYONE what is the
>> location the owner says it is the correct location. And hopefully that
>> should be the mandatory source for this information.
>>
>>
>> > If a content providing network operator wishes to offer this content
>> > to anyone in a specific location, that can be seen as a coordination
>> > activity. The content provider can coordinate with other network
>> > operators to establish that their customers are within this location
>> > so they can access this content. If this interpretation is accepted by
>> > the community then the context has changed. The legal team can now
>> > reassess their advice in the context that the use of the "geofeed:"
>> > data is now covered by the existing database purposes.
>>
>> Yes, please :-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Carlos
>>
>>
>>
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