[db-wg] running in whios-circles...?

Thanks.
perfect.

Frank

On 15/09/2021 00:03, denis walker wrote:
> Hi Frank
> 
> The RIPE NCC mirrors all the RIR's whois databases and provides a
> Global Resource Service (GRS). This can be easily accessed using the
> webupdates interface
> https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/query
> 
> You select the option "Search resource objects in all available
> databases" and you will get the correct data from the RIR responsible
> for this resource.
> 
> This link gives the data for the resource you are interested in:
> https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/query?bflag=true&dflag=false&rflag=true&searchtext=82.156.114.62&source=GRS
> 
> cheers
> denis
> co-chair DB-WG
> 
> 
> On Tue, 14 Sept 2021 at 20:09, Frank Habicht via db-wg <db-wg at ripe.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> so on my self-hosted MTA I got an email [unsure about good intentions,
>> thus checking origin] from 82.156.114.62
>>
>> Whois directed to ripe, ripe said it's iana, iana said it's ripe
>>
>> [  BGP said ..... 4134 23724 45090  ]
>>
>> and .....
>>
>> there's a route object in APNIC:
>> route:          82.156.0.0/15
>> origin:         AS45090
>> descr:          Tencent Cloud Computing (Beijing) Co., Ltd
>>                 309 West Zone, 3F. 49 Zhichun Road. Haidian District.
>> mnt-by:         MAINT-TENCENT-CN
>> last-modified:  2020-02-24T07:34:42Z
>> source:         APNIC
>>
>> and also "inetnum:        82.156.0.0 - 82.157.255.255" (in APNIC)
>>
>> So, I tend to believe that I'm on the wrong list here, because my
>> question turns out to be:
>>     can I trust whois.iana.org ?
>>
>> It seems to tell me something different from what APNIC is saying.
>>
>> PS:
>> a prefix containing IP in question is not seen in
>> https://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-recovered-address-space/ipv4-recovered-address-space.xhtml
>>
>>
>> am i right to be confused by the iana answer?
>> who should get 'encouraged' to change something?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Frank
>>
>>
>>
>> [frank at fisi ~]$ whoisiana 82.156.114.62
>> [Querying whois.iana.org]
>> [whois.iana.org]
>> % IANA WHOIS server
>> % for more information on IANA, visit http://www.iana.org
>> % This query returned 1 object
>>
>> refer:        whois.ripe.net
>>
>> inetnum:      82.0.0.0 - 82.255.255.255
>> organisation: RIPE NCC
>> status:       ALLOCATED
>>
>> whois:        whois.ripe.net
>>
>> changed:      2002-11
>> source:       IANA
>>
>> [frank at fisi ~]$ whois 82.156.114.62
>> [Querying whois.ripe.net]
>> [whois.ripe.net]
>> % This is the RIPE Database query service.
>> % The objects are in RPSL format.
>> %
>> % The RIPE Database is subject to Terms and Conditions.
>> % See http://www.ripe.net/db/support/db-terms-conditions.pdf
>>
>> % Note: this output has been filtered.
>> %       To receive output for a database update, use the "-B" flag.
>>
>> % Information related to '82.156.0.0 - 82.157.255.255'
>>
>> % No abuse contact registered for 82.156.0.0 - 82.157.255.255
>>
>> inetnum:        82.156.0.0 - 82.157.255.255
>> netname:        NON-RIPE-NCC-MANAGED-ADDRESS-BLOCK
>> descr:          IPv4 address block not managed by the RIPE NCC
>> remarks:        ------------------------------------------------------
>> remarks:
>> remarks:        For registration information,
>> remarks:        you can consult the following sources:
>> remarks:
>> remarks:        IANA
>> remarks:        http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space
>> remarks:        http://www.iana.org/assignments/iana-ipv4-special-registry
>> remarks:        http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-recovered-address-space
>> remarks:
>> remarks:        AFRINIC (Africa)
>> remarks:        http://www.afrinic.net/ whois.afrinic.net
>> remarks:
>> remarks:        APNIC (Asia Pacific)
>> remarks:        http://www.apnic.net/ whois.apnic.net
>> remarks:
>> remarks:        ARIN (Northern America)
>> remarks:        http://www.arin.net/ whois.arin.net
>> remarks:
>> remarks:        LACNIC (Latin America and the Carribean)
>> remarks:        http://www.lacnic.net/ whois.lacnic.net
>> remarks:
>> remarks:        ------------------------------------------------------
>> country:        EU # Country is really world wide
>> admin-c:        IANA1-RIPE
>> tech-c:         IANA1-RIPE
>> status:         ALLOCATED UNSPECIFIED
>> mnt-by:         RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT
>> created:        2019-01-07T10:49:20Z
>> last-modified:  2019-01-07T10:49:20Z
>> source:         RIPE
>>
>> role:           Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
>> address:        see http://www.iana.org.
>> admin-c:        IANA1-RIPE
>> tech-c:         IANA1-RIPE
>> nic-hdl:        IANA1-RIPE
>> remarks:        For more information on IANA services
>> remarks:        go to IANA web site at http://www.iana.org.
>> mnt-by:         RIPE-NCC-MNT
>> created:        1970-01-01T00:00:00Z
>> last-modified:  2001-09-22T09:31:27Z
>> source:         RIPE # Filtered
>>
>> % This query was served by the RIPE Database Query Service version 1.101
>> (ANGUS)
>>
>>
>> [frank at fisi ~]$
>>