[db-wg] Sideline --template [was: Certain sponsored? ASNs without sponsoring-org]

Hi Wilfried
These are the "org-type:" values according to the -v output

org-type

   Specifies the type of the organisation.

     org-type can have one of these values:
     
     o 'IANA' for Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
     o 'RIR' for Regional Internet Registries
     o 'NIR' for National Internet Registries (there are no NIRs in the RIPE NCC service region)
     o 'LIR' for Local Internet Registries
     o 'WHITEPAGES' for special links to industry people
     o 'DIRECT_ASSIGNMENT' for direct contract with RIPE NCC
     o 'OTHER' for all other organisations.
I also find it a bit annoying that -t and -v don't work in webupdates now :( 

cheersdenisco-chair DB-WG


      From: Wilfried Wöber via db-wg <db-wg at ripe.net>
 To: db-wg at ripe.net 
 Sent: Monday, 7 January 2019, 14:47
 Subject: Re: [db-wg] Sideline --template [was: Certain sponsored? ASNs without sponsoring-org]
   

Hm, I am a tad puzzled, because AS200358 *does* have an org: reference,
although it claims to be a "Registrar" (BoltN Hosting Limited (Registrar Services)).

So I would assume that AS200358 is a sponsored AS#?

As I am not aware that we use the "Registrar" term or model in the IP registry,
I tried to follow up on the org-type: OTHER by an attempt to get a listing of the
possible values for org-type: by using the template flag of whois.

Unfortunately, neither the short format -t nor the --template syntax is accepted
by the whois web interface. "ERROR:111: invalid option supplied"

So, the primary Q is: which values are accepted or used in the org-type: attribute?

Secondly, are there other flags which cannot be used in the web interface (and why?)

All the best for a smooth start into ++(2018),
best regards,
Wilfried

On 07/01/2019 11:38, Cynthia Revström via db-wg wrote:
> Just realized I made a mistake while writing the last message, ASNs without sponsoring-org attribute and without LEGACY status, and ORG that is of type other are unsponsored.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Cynthia Revström
> 
> On 2019-01-07 11:34, Cynthia Revström via db-wg wrote:
>> Just an update: Laurens Hoogendoorn from the NCC contacted me and did indeed confirm that ASNs without LEGACY status with an ORG that is OTHER are indeed unsponsored, and that you can look at stat.ripe.net historical whois to find out for how long.
>>
>> I do still think that it should be more obvious than this.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Cynthia Revström
>>
>> On 2019-01-07 10:57, Cynthia Revström via db-wg wrote:
>>> So I have now run across several ASNs in which the org is of type "OTHER" yet there is no sponsoring-org, could this please be clarified?
>>>
>>> Example ASNs: AS200358, AS204842
>>>
>>> If it is like I think it is, it must be that they have lost their sponsors but if that is the case, I would like to see a remark that is an "RIPE NCC managed value" saying something like "This ASN does not have any sponsor since YYYY-MM-DD".
>>>
>>> I am not entirely sure on this but something to clarify what is going on.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Cynthia Revström
>>>
>>>
>>
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