[db-wg] RIPE Policy Proposal 2018-06 Aims to Delete Conflicting Non-authorative IRR Objects

Why don't delete RIPE-NONAUTH at all?

If there is no legal use of it - there is no need to maintain it.
If there are legal use cases - you would create unpredictable operational
problems, when the customer will set up an ROA, forgetting for a moment
that provider is advertising its prefix for him, then he will fix ROA - but
the route object will be already gone.

You have NTTCOM to register objects for your customers, some other Tier1
telcos also have similar service.
The lock of RIPE-NONAUTH and this policy forces smaller ISPs to pay an
additional fee to RADB.

I agree with the idea to drop (freeze) 'invalids', but only if you are able
to restore 'valids'.

пн, 15 окт. 2018 г. в 17:43, Job Snijders <job at instituut.net>:

> On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 16:35 Alexander Azimov via db-wg <db-wg at ripe.net>
> wrote:
>
>> There is only one good thing about mistakes - if you can fix it.
>> Here if one fails to properly configure ROAs it may lead to ongoing
>> operational problems, that can't be fixed even after fixing ROAs, since
>> RIPE-NONAUTH database is locked.
>> I think, that it's ok to delete route objects that conflict with ROAs
>> only if you are able to create new. Otherwise, the only winning party will
>> be commercial IRRs.
>>
>
> Alex - just create the route object in the correct database.
>
> Why help proliferate rogue or stale route announcements? It is outside
> RIPE’s scope to facilitate hijacks and increased risk to one business’
> operations through incorrect routing information registration.
>
> If you can’t create the route object, perhaps you aren’t authorized by the
> owner of the resource and have no business creating such objects.
>
> This is no different than configuring the wrong DS records at the domain
> registry level, or generating TLS certs for the wrong hostname, or
> misconfiguring your firewalls or routers. Misconfigurations lead to issues
> - news at 11.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Job
>


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