[db-wg] Getting 'responsible organization' out of RDAP

Dear Tim,

Do you expect to be able to do unreliable guesswork about when a "future
plan" could be approximately ready ? (Fx. Q3-Q4 2019/Around RIPE78)

Cheers
Christoffer Hansen

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On 20-03-2018 17:28, Tim Bruijnzeels wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> There are known differences between the RIR implementations of RDAP. In some cases we will need to make extended RDAP specifications, e.g. a resource can have multiple countries in the RIPE region. The RIRs are working together to make an inventory of these differences, and based on that we will plan future work.
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Tim Bruijnzeels
> 
> Assistant Manager Software Engineering
> RIPE NCC
> 
> 
>> On 20 Mar 2018, at 16:02, Christoffer Hansen via db-wg <db-wg at ripe.net> wrote:
>>
>> On the github repo[0] they have a small snippet about it.
>>
>> "An org: reference from an inetnum,inet6num,autnum resource is not
>> included in the query response.
>> By contrast, ARIN returns the org reference as a "registrant" entity."
>>
>> As I understand it. RIPE NCC has done an active choice in NOT doing the
>> RDAP implementation similar to ARIN.
>>
>> [0]:
>> https://github.com/RIPE-NCC/whois/blob/master/README.RDAP.md#organisation-entity-is-not-returned-in-ip-or-autnum-query-responses
>>
>> On 20-03-2018 15:48, Brian Rak via db-wg wrote:
>>> I've been attempting to use RDAP to verify our customer's IP
>>> information, however I'm running into some difficulties due to
>>> differences between ARIN's implementation and RIPE's.
>>>
>>> For example, I'm trying to get the organization name for a particular
>>> IP.  On ARIN, this is easy.  I look through the provided vcards for one
>>> where the kind is 'org', and that gives me the information about the
>>> organization. (ex: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/66.55.158.27 )
>>>
>>> With RIPE's RDAP implementation, this data does not seem to be readily
>>> available.
>>>
>>> For example, if I look at https://rdap.db.ripe.net/ip/195.66.225.160 I'd
>>> expect to find the string 'London Internet Exchange Ltd.' somewhere
>>> within the response.
>>>
>>> If I look at the web UI:
>>> https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/#/query?searchtext=195.66.225.160#resultsSection
>>> , this information is easily available.
>>>
>>> Would it be possible to expand the RDAP results to include organization
>>> information?  This seems like it would just be another vcard entry, so
>>> there really shouldn't be any backwards compatibility issues.
>>>
>>> Apologies if this isn't the correct list, I can't really find any
>>> information about RDAP on RIPE's website.
>>>
>>>
>>
> 

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