[db-wg] Source GRS vs RIPE

Hi Henriette,
Thanks for the update. Are you also talking to radb to remove misleading
object for the same prefix and it’s deaggregates?
On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 at 10:49 pm, Henriette Van Ingen via db-wg <
db-wg at ripe.net> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> We would like to inform you that the RIPE NCC has de-registered
> 188.64.224.0/21 on 10 July 2018 according to our published procedures. We
> are in contact with the relevant party.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Henriette van Ingen
> Customer Services
> RIPE NCC
>
>
> On 13 Jul 2018, at 11:54, denis walker via db-wg <db-wg at ripe.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Guys
>
> I am sure everyone will disagree with me, but this shows (to me) why it
> would be better to have one authoritative, accurate, trusted, distributed
> IRR managed by the 5 RIRs than many independent/commercial IRRs with non
> authenticated data.
>
> cheers
> denis
> co-chair DB-WG
>
>
>
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> *From:* Aftab Siddiqui via db-wg <db-wg at ripe.net>
> *To:* Geoff Huston <gih at apnic.net>
> *Cc:* RIPE Database Working Group <db-wg at ripe.net>
> *Sent:* Thursday, 12 July 2018, 18:40
> *Subject:* Re: [db-wg] Source GRS vs RIPE
>
> Hi Geoff,
>
>
> Of course Twitter is doing nothing uniquely unusual in this respect, as
> these are just 7 examples from a pool of some 300 announcements of
> unallocated address space (a list of such bogons can be found at
> http://www.cidr-report.org/as2.0/#Bogons)
>
>
> :)
>
>
>
> - Why is Twitter announcing these prefixes?
>
>    I have no idea. Something has gone wrong here and the address has come
> back to the RIR and Twitter apper to be unaware of this.
>
>
> No, Twitter is absolutely aware of this issue, I alerted their NOC when I
> got the result this morning from CIDR report (yes, I scrop your data daily)
> but unfortunately there response was "This prefix is valid and owned by us
> in RIPE region. Please do your homework before making incorrect
> accusations." But atleast I tried.
>
>
> - How and why is this prefix in RADB, given that it is unallocated space?
>
>    Good question - I wonder what periodic checks the RADB undertakes on
> the data held in its registry?
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> No idea, it should be triggered right away when the RIR, who is the
> authentic source of these resources marked them "Unalloacted". But in a
> perfect world.
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> - Why do upstream AS’s accept these advertised prefixes?
>
>    Maybe they chose to believe that RADB performs robust periodic
> integrity checks? Or <insert reason here>?
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> Yes, mostly follow RADB.
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> Geoff
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