[db-wg] NWI-7 proposal for fixing "abuse-c:" problems

Hi,

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 11:47:37AM +0200, Sebastian Wiesinger via db-wg wrote:
> Denis wrote:
> > There is also a question over the double indirection to get to the
> > abuse contact information, ie resource object -> ORGANISATION object
> > -> ROLE object. 

I'm not sure how many times I've stated this in the past: this double
indirection looks great in computer science theory, but it annoys real
people enough to just not jump through these hoops - so "nothing is
done, because it is too annoying".

I'm among this group.  If I have to create (and maintain) an extra 
organization: object just to be able to point a more-specific inetnum
to a different abuse-c: (or just add a more-specific abuse-mailbox:)
- then I'm just not going to do it.

Not sure what's so hard in *listening*, and then coming up with a 
solution that takes the statements said into account, not "make a 
beautiful database out of it" - to make this work, it needs to be easy
on people that *do* the work, not pretty on the back side.


[..]
> I think it is a show stopper. You have to understand the logic and
> implement the tools. Many LIRs will shy away from that. Instead just
> adding an "abuse-c:" field to an object is easily understandable.

This!

> To sum it up, I don't think that this approach will make it easier to
> add and maintain abuse information in the database and as such will
> not improve the goal of having accurate and up-to-date abuse contact
> information. I would not support the proposal in this form.

And this!

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