[db-wg] NWI-2 - displaying history for DB objects where available

On 25/05/2016 22:18, denis wrote:
> Hi Sascha
>
> On 25/05/2016 22:48, Sascha Luck [ml] wrote:
>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 02:57:15PM +0200, Job Snijders wrote:
>>> ---------
>>> NWI-2:
>>
>>>    However, it is not entirely clear to the RIPE NCC why this is
>>>    useful. We also have some concerns, mainly non-technical, and
>>>    therefore we believe that the problem statement and motivation needs
>>>    to be better defined in the working group.
>>
>> Indeed, I should like to see some use cases that go beyond simple
>> curiosity or "intelligence collection".
>>
>> Also, how does this affect objects referred to by the
>> "historical" objects? Does this mean that a deleted personal or
>> organisational object will now have to be retrievable forever for
>> historical purposes? Does a "right to be forgotten" exist for
>> ripedb entries?
>
> The current implementation does not show history of personal data. Apart
> from the legal issues, it is technically not possible to provide
> reliable personal history because of the way Nic-handles were reused in
> the past.
>
> You cannot query for a MNTNER object so history is also not available
> for those objects. Not sure if history of ORGANISATION objects is
> allowed now, but personally I don't think that should be available to
> anyone outside of the organisation.

Actually I can think of a number of issues relating to the history of an 
ORGANISATION object. So I will wait to see what use cases are put 
forward for any history before I comment more on that.

cheers
denis

>
> cheers
> denis
>
>>
>> rgds,
>> Sascha Luck
>>
>>> ---------
>>>
>>> The next step is to help refine the problem statement. I would
>>> appreciate it if working group participants with an interest in the
>>> history of objects speak up and elaborate on the issue.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Job
>>>
>>