[db-wg] [anti-abuse-wg] objection to RIPE policy proposal 2016-01

I'm just going to go "+1" on that as I couldn't have said it any
better.

rgds,
Sascha Luck

On Mon, Mar 07, 2016 at 10:31:51PM +0100, Gert Doering wrote:
>Hi,
>
>On Mon, Mar 07, 2016 at 09:02:26PM +0100, denis wrote:
>> > The requirement for role: objects is also annoying
>> > if all there is is just a single person - so admin-c:, tech-c: point to
>> > "the person that is responsible for everything", while abuse-c: needs a
>> > new object.
>>
>> Please learn from past mistakes.
>
>Yes, please *do so*.  Do not design something that is going to win a price
>at a computer scientist conference - design something that is easy to work
>with.
>
>The current abuse-c: design is annoying, because it requires extra work
>to get to the point of documenting what you want to document.  So people
>(remember: we want *people* to use that, and put useful information in
>there) are annoyed, and stop bothering.
>
>I'm a bit more verbose about this, but if you ever wondered *why* abuse-c:
>isn't the huge success people expected: this is part of the "why".  It is
>way too annoying to use.
>
>[..]
>> > Maybe some extended outreach activity could be started to actually ensure
>> > that some human is alive at ERX holders that the NCC had no contact
>> > anymore since <x> years - but friendly, not pushy.  They have been here
>> > first, we have no authority over them.
>>
>> 2007-01?
>
>One of the early version of 2007-01 indeed covered legacy resource holders,
>and was killed in WG chairs last call - for precisely that reason.  The
>final proposal that was accepted only covered resources given out by the
>RIPE NCC.
>
>Precisely my point.
>
>Gert Doering
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