[db-wg] [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE NCC's proposed implementation of Abuse Contact Management in the RIPE Database

Hello Florian,

You are right about "ROLE" objects in the bulk dump. They were designed to contain role information and they should hold non-personal data, but unfortunately over time this did not happen and that's why at the moment we have to hide personal data. 
Obviously we want to clean that up and as we have announced in RIPE 65 after we finish with reimplementing current software we will initiate and effort to clean up objects including "Role" objects with personal data, but that is a different story.

However, as mentioned before, for roles referred from the "abuse-c:" we will put a notification during data entry. The notification will clearly state that this data will be published fully and will be accessible with no restrictions. With that in place, we don't have to "dummify" those objects anymore and "ROLE" objects with "abuse-mailbox:" attribute will be accessible with no restriction. 

Kind Regards,
Kaveh.

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Kaveh Ranjbar,
RIPE NCC Database Group Manager

On Nov 16, 2012, at 8:18 PM, Florian Weimer <fw at deneb.enyo.de> wrote:

> * Denis Walker:
> 
>> ... This is why we propose to allow an "abuse-c:" attribute to
>> reference only a ROLE object and not a PERSON object. As Kaveh said,
>> the ROLE object was not designed to, and should not, hold personal
>> data.
> 
> Does this mean that you will publish a ROLE object in the bulk dump
> once it is referenced from an abuse-c: field?
> 
> Right now, you're redacting ROLE objects—but as Kaveh said, ROLE
> objects should not contain personal data, so there shouldn't be a
> reason for redacting them.  That's where my confusion comes from, I
> guess.
>