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[db-wg] Abuse Complaint procedures
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der Mouse
mouse at Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA
Tue Nov 8 03:57:28 CET 2005
> The RIPE NCC allocates address space to ISPs and other organisations. > These organisations are responsible for the activities originating > from the address space allocated to them. Since the RIPE NCC is NOT > the organisation using or responsible for activities originating from > the address space, any concerns or responses should be directed to > them. Which is a very nice theory, except that RIPE has flat-out refused, to me, to either ensure that address space contacts are correct or pass along complaints. Perhaps the policy behind that has changed. I hope so. But until I see some evidence of it, I still consider RIPE fundamentally rogue - wanting the authority to assign address space, but not accepting the concomitant responsibility, the same responsibility they say everyone they assign address space to has. Responsibility has to be matched with authority the way up the chain, from individual hosts all the way up to ICANN; whenever authority and responsibility are mismatched, you get abuses, growing more and more severe until either the mismatch is corrected or the system collapses - and RIPE is no exception. (Neither is anyone else, of course.) No, I don't think scattershotting individual complaints to every address in sight is sane behaviour. But when there is a long-standing pattern of persistent abuse, or an address space holder that persistently refuses to provide working contact addresses, the RIR in question needs to step in and assume the responsibility their assignee isn't. (And, of course, if a RIR persistently refuses to do so, ICANN needs to step in and take whatever steps are necessary to correct the situation.) These are last-resort steps, of course; except in cases of nonworking netblock contacts (which in routine cases should be quickly corrected), I wouldn't go as far upstream as RIPE until everyone lower had proven comatose or rogue for months. No, I don't expect that to happen anywhere near the RIR level in the foreseeable future. With the US Government at the top of the pyramid, the rot goes clear to the top, and I don't expect it to be fixed until the root cause is fixed: until whatever entity is at the top of the assignment chain (ICANN or its analog) is not beholden to any national government and cares more about the net's running smoothly than about lining their own pockets. (And that's what I see it as; ICANN shouldn't *need* any money from any government, with all the money pouring up the pyramid from every address space assignment and domain registration. What is that money *for*, if not to pay for the infrastructure?) And that, I don't expect to happen soon. Perhaps not even in my lifetime. Possibly not even in the Internet's lifetime. (And people wonder why I wish I knew a trade other than computers....) /~\ The ASCII der Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse at rodents.montreal.qc.ca / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B
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