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[db-wg] mntner creation
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Shane Kerr
shane at ripe.net
Mon Aug 1 10:59:25 CEST 2005
Ulf Kieber wrote: >did I miss something or since when does the RIPE DB permit creation >of mntner objects by direct mail. Several of our customers have >started creating mntners ad libitum and the mntner creation feature >on lirportal.ripe.net has become pretty superfluous. > > Ulf, The RIPE NCC used to approve all MNTNER object creations. This was a historical practice, that we believe came from from a concern over security, because there were a large number of unprotected objects in the database. With the removal of the NONE authentication type, there are no longer lots of unprotected objects. The RIPE NCC approval had two bad effects. The first is that users had to wait until a human processed the request, which means no new MNTNER on weekends or outside of business hours in Amsterdam. The second problem is that it took a lot of time for support people. This approval added no real value, because in most cases it was non-LIRs getting MNTNER objects this way. LIR MNTNER objects are usually created as part of the first allocation process. The RIPE NCC therefore has no relationship with the people asking for MNTNER objects, so no "authentication" was actually going on - we have to trust the user. Given that the reason for RIPE NCC approval had gone, and that the process was harmful, we decided to allow any user to create MNTNER directly. Our thinking was to allow MNTNER creation and see if any problems resulted. We have not seen any problems, and in fact have recently also allowed IRT creation without approval for much the same reasons. -- Shane
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