[db-wg] Abuse-C/IRT

>> IP space is a public resource, much like land.  [...public ownership
>> records...]
> This logic is problematic I think, because it might give a
> gouvernment an oppertunity tho get control over the IP-assignments
> under its juristiction.

It already has such control if it wants it, because the entities to
whom the IP space is assigned are under its jurisdiction.

>> If privacy laws in some jurisdiction make this illegal, then IP
>> space simply must not be assigned to entities in that jurisdiction.
>> Having IP space is not a right.
> But getting one should not depend on local law.

I agree that it shouldn't.  But lots of things that shouldn't be
nevertheless are.

I do not consider it acceptable for a jurisdiction to allow entities in
it to evade the responsibility I believe they have to be accountable
for public resource fragments assigned to them.  The right answer to
"this country doesn't permit me to make my contact info public" is
"that's too bad, come back when you've got your laws fixed", not "well
then I guess we'll let you duck the responsibility that inheres in the
privilege we're granting you".

> Just look how much of Internet and stuff is right now dependent on US
> Law - and we should avoid such implications wherever possible.

I agree that the IAB, IANA, and ICANN should be multinational entities
(UN entities maybe, though I'm not entirely comfortable with that
either), or perhaps set up in international waters, so as to not be
under the thumb of any particular country.

But this is a very different issue.  In fact, I think your point
supports my argument: I am arguing that the contactability and
accountability requirements for having IP space should be designed for
good operation of the net, rather than for conformance to any
particular jurisdiction's restrictions.  Countries with laws that
conflict would then be faced with three choices: they can change their
laws, or they can do without networking, or they can try setting up an
alternative network with whatever characteristics they think good.

Certainly the contactability and accountability mechanisms in place now
aren't working.  Whether this is an enforcement issue or a requirements
issue is an open question - but _something_ needs to change.

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