[db-wg] abuse-c

MarcoH wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 11:52:04AM +0100, Ulrich Kiermayr wrote:
> 
>>Hi *,
>>
>>
>>>Im not sure why it should be multiple? But I think most of us on this list
>>>can agree with you that a valid abuse email address associated with each
>>>inetnum in the database would be very welcome.
>>
>>Just a stupid question: how do you assure the address is valid in the 
>>first place, and after that stays valid,  i.e. there is a human behind 
>>it reading it? (without putting additional workload on the NCC manual 
>>validating all of these)
> 
> 
> Let's just limit it to be syntactically correct accoording to whatever the
> rfc at that moment specify as 'syntactically correct'.
> 
> There is no other way of ensuring that it's valid on a certain moment.
> There is still some form of 'trust' involved as to the point that the LIR
> inserting the address takes abuse serious. And I hope the majority still
> does, so the system would work and people don't have to use other things
> like mailing all addresses they can find related to an address upto and
> including hostmaster at ripe.net.

Sorry to be picky, but I still do not get it: then what is the advantage of

abuse-c: abuse at here.there.nl

over

remarks: abuse-c: abuse at here.there.nl

as you stated trust is required and you can't ensure anything; so having 
it mandatory is basically worthless, because someone who has to fill in 
something but does not want to will put in trash_my_abuse at hotmail.com, 
which is also perfectly valid, but does not buy you anything either.

And for having a usable, maintainable automated system, it is easier to 
take what is there (IRT is not really hard to figure out - it _is_ 
basically like a maintainer), and write the apprpriate tools for that; 
since you would have to write tools anyway.

I hope that makes sense.

lG uk
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