[ncc-services-wg] Re: [db-wg] The New "organisation object" Proposal

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Engin Gunduz wrote:

> On 2003-08-29 09:59:43 +0200, azucena.hernandezperez at telefonica.es wrote:
> > I support the view of Hans Petter regarding the additional identification
> > of each organisation by a number making it a separate object in the
>
> The org-ID in the "organisation:" attribute will already make it a
> separate object. The org-ID is unique. Also, it will not change
> even when the name of the organisation changes.
>
> > database. I am in favor using the VAT number for organisations in EU
> > countries and soon in the Eastern Europe Accessing countries and any other
> > national registration number for those organisations established in non-EU
> > countries.
>
> The problem I see here is: This number will mean very little to the whois users
> outside the EU. If somebody puts any kind of number which is meaningful
> only in the organisation's country, then an explanation of what that number
> is, and how it can be used, must be put in a "remarks:" attribute. Thus
> a "remarks:" attribute is already required??

In Russia we already use unique VAT numbers in the domain names db which
includes "organisation:" objects.
In case it is also used in the RIPE db we'll have double option
to easily find ips if there are any.


>
> > Azucena
> >
> > >
> > > > I think that this is something too specific to have its own attribute.
> > > > "remarks:" attribute can be used for this I guess, just like it can
> > > > be used to point users to web pages etc.
> > >
> > > I dont agree: the point about the attribute would be to uniquely identify
> > > the organisation within a country. I am quite shure all countries within
> > > the EU has this concept of org-number/vat number or public registry
> > > number. The good thing is that it stays unique and lives trough name
> > > changes.
>
> See above.
>
> > >
> > > Hans Petter
>
> Best regards,
> --
> Engin Gunduz
> RIPE NCC Database Group
>


With respect,
Larisa Yurkina
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