<div dir="ltr"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Mr. Tsung-Yi Yu,</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"> </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">First, I would like to express my sincere sympathy for all those affected by the earthquake in Taiwan today. My thoughts are with them and with the first responders handling this crisis.</span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Now, to your message, thank you for reaching out and for suggesting ways to address this sensitive topic. As the RIPE NCC is a neutral organisation, determining the status of nations or their names is out of our scope. For the purpose of assigning a country code to a resource holder (1),</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"> we use the ISO 3166-1 list, which is the international standard. These codes are assigned by the ISO 3166-1 Maintenance Agency based on the UN identifier chosen by the UN Statistics Division. </span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Under ISO 3166-1 (2),</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"> Taiwan is listed as "TAIWAN, PROVINCE OF CHINA," with the country code TW, which is reflected on our website in the List of Country Codes and RIRs (3).</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"> We do not use the ISO 3166-2 codes, which have more specific information about country subdivisions, such as provinces or states, which is not relevant to our purposes. As to your suggestion that we use the term “economy” when referring to Taiwan, we appreciate the usefulness of this term in the APNIC region. However, we do not want to start deviating from the ISO, as this would cause other inconsistencies in our data.</span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">You mention a need to consider both accuracy and respect. I fully agree with you on the importance of these principles. This is precisely why we do not get involved in geopolitical disputes by selecting one person’s preferred terminology over another’s. Instead, we show our members equal respect by relying on internationally defined standards. Any disagreements over these standards should take place in the fora that create them, like the UN. Furthermore, these international standards keep registration information consistent across nations and organisations. This is what makes it possible for us to uphold the accuracy of our database and other services. </span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">I hope that this has helped explain why we operate this way, as we accommodate members from 76 countries in a service region experiencing several active conflicts. Please let us know if you would like more information about the ISO standards and how we use them.</span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Sincerely,</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Hans Petter Holen</span></p><p style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Managing Director and CEO</span></p><p style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">RIPE NCC</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><br></span></p><p style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">References:</span></p><p style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">1) <a href="https://labs.ripe.net/author/kjerstin-burdiek/country-codes-in-the-ripe-database/" target="_blank">https://labs.ripe.net/author/kjerstin-burdiek/country-codes-in-the-ripe-database/</a><br>2) <a href="https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:code:3166:TW" target="_blank">https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:code:3166:TW</a><br>3) <a href="https://www.ripe.net/membership/member-support/list-of-members/list-of-country-codes-and-rirs/" target="_blank">https://www.ripe.net/membership/member-support/list-of-members/list-of-country-codes-and-rirs/</a></span></p></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 at 02:53, SteveYi Yo <<a href="mailto:steveyiyo@steveyi.net">steveyiyo@steveyi.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Jaap,<div><br>Thanks for sharing the official document! As far as I can see, it seems that the Short name is marked as TAIWAN, PROVINCE OF CHINA.</div><div><a href="https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:code:3166:TW" target="_blank">https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:code:3166:TW</a><br><br>I will ask RIPE Support to check which ISO 3166 they implement, and back to here ASAP.<br><br></div><div>Thank you!<br></div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Tsung-Yi Yu</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 3:37 AM Jaap Akkerhuis <<a href="mailto:jaap@nlnetlabs.nl" target="_blank">jaap@nlnetlabs.nl</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> SteveYi Yo writes:<br>
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 > ISO 3166-2 focuses on codes for country subdivisions, and it also<br>
 > encompasses 'Country names'.<br>
<br>
It does not. It only lists the subdivisons of the entities mentioned<br>
in ISO 3166-1<br>
<br>
 > The RIPE NCC website, however, does not<br>
 > reference ISO 3166-2 explicitly; it only mentions ISO 3166.<br>
<br>
No, it (*) mentions 3166 but refers to 3166-1 explicitly.<br>
<br>
The wiki page you mention (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-2" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-2</a>)<br>
is not the official standard. apart from that, it says that ISO<br>
3166-2 "defines codes for identifying the principal subdivisions<br>
(e.g., provinces or states) of all countries coded in ISO 3166-1".<br>
<br>
For official information about ISO standards one should consult<br>
<a href="http://iso.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">iso.org</a> itself. For country codes, see<br>
<<a href="https://www.iso.org/iso-3166-country-codes.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.iso.org/iso-3166-country-codes.html</a>> as as start.<br>
<br>
        jaap<br>
<br>
* <a href="https://www.ripe.net/membership/member-support/list-of-members/list-of-country-codes-and-rirs/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ripe.net/membership/member-support/list-of-members/list-of-country-codes-and-rirs/</a><br>
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