<div dir="ltr">Johan,<div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">>And sometimes they listen very selectively... :)</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Indeed ;)</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">>The tricky ones are the ones where the views of the community</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">>and the views of (some) governments are in conflict, and</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">>activism, rather than education, is what is needed. In that</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">>case we need to be very clear about who represents whom.</span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">That's a good point. And I recognize it's difficult to talk about either politics or mobilization in a constructive way when there is no single or set position, one way or another.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">-Michael</span><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div></div></div>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 4:37 PM, Johan Helsingius <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:julf@julf.com" target="_blank">julf@julf.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Michael,<br>
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> Of course, this incites a point of frustration for<br>
> some in the technical community in that it seems government reps don't<br>
> always (or sometimes) listen.<br>
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</span>And sometimes they listen very selectively... :)<br>
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> The good question to brainstorm is what can we as a community do to help<br>
> politicians and others in government better understand the technology or<br>
> at the very least, take part in the discussions and listen to the<br>
> community's point of view?<br>
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</span>The tricky ones are the ones where the views of the community<br>
and the views of (some) governments are in conflict, and<br>
activism, rather than education, is what is needed. In that<br>
case we need to be very clear about who represents whom.<br>
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Julf<br>
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