<div dir="ltr">Hi all, thanks for your useful input! And yes a presentation at the RIPE NCC Roundtable in Brussels (19 Feb) is definitely a good idea; I will check straight away with RIPE NCC to see whether they can give us a slot on the agenda. Next to the RIPE NCC Roundtable, there might also be value to actually go and talk to the officials in Brussels who prepare the legislative texts. From experience I would argue that those are NOT necessarily the same people as those who attend the RIPE NCC Roundtable meetings.� I think Gordon is right that it is very hard to get them to join us at the RIPE meeting in Warsaw. So maybe we have to reach out in a different way?� So what if a small group of technical experts would actually prepare a technical presentation (e.g. on IP interconnection, IXP�s,...- subject to the needs of our audience) and go to Brussels and actually provide an overview to the officials in the units dealing with drafting those legislative texts?� This seems perfectly in line with the �Proposed Workplan for the coop-wg� �(see mail of Maria on 30 Nov). What do you think? � Alain</div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Patrik F�ltstr�m <<a href="mailto:paf@frobbit.se" target="_blank">paf@frobbit.se</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im">On 9 dec 2013, at 13:21, Alain Van Gaever <<a href="mailto:avangaev@gmail.com">avangaev@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > I believe it is worthwhile to engage with the European Institutions to provide expertise on IP Interconnection. (see also background below). �Who would be the technical experts available to explain to a non-tech audience the technical & business model of Internet Exchange Points, including on how the European model differs from the US one? </div>There is a larger issue here, and that is that we have three categories of people: - The ones that understand how Internet works, and based the world view on it - The ones that do not understand how the Internet work, and continue to apply traditional connection oriented thinking on packet based networks - The ones that understand how Internet works, and [because of this] continue to apply traditional connection oriented thinking on packet based networks <div class="im"> > Also there seems to be a concern that the lack of �assured service quality� on IP interconnections might actually prevent the introduction of pan-European health services and video-conferencing. </div>See above. � �Patrik </blockquote></div> </div>