[cooperation-wg] RIPE NCC Hosts Workshop for Russian LEAs

I agree Jim. At the risk of sounding naive, while it is of course important
to be critical, advocate for transparency, and take a stand when needed,
alienating LEAs who have legitatent challenges and concerns won't do us any
good. Of course, that may be slightly off-topic given the initial response
by Alexander, and I do understand his criticism.

Best,
-Michael

On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 12:07 PM, Jim Reid <jim at rfc1035.com> wrote:

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> > On 29 Mar 2018, at 10:45, Alex Smirnoff <ark at eltex.net> wrote:
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> > It is like they need us, not vice versa, right?
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> First, let’s stop this “us” and “them” attitude. It’s wrong and unhelpful.
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> Law enforcement, regulators and so on are members of the RIPE community.
> We have to work with these sectors, just like we engage with IXPs, ISPs,
> privacy activists and so on.
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> An adversarial relationship with the authorities will not be in the best
> interests of anyone. That doesn’t mean “we” must always agree with “them”.
> It does mean at a minimum that there are channels for discussion and mutual
> understanding and that these work well. It looks to me that the recent
> workshop was a welcome step in that direction.
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> And FWIW we need “them” just as much as they need “us”. We’re all
> passengers on the same Internet bus and we have a common interest in making
> sure the wheels don’t come off.
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