[cooperation-wg] Internet governance

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at 09:48:58 on Thu, 21 Nov 2013, Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org> 
writes
>> >At the end of June 2002, ripe-246 documented the policy that had 
>> >been developed based on the experience gained through ripe-196. As 
>> >you note, it did not cater to IXPs but that problem was solved about 
>> > later, with the publication ripe-256 in early August, which 
>> >documented "IPv6 Address Space Policy for Internet Exchange Points."
>>
>> I remember this being an issue at RIPE meetings in 2000.
>
>I expect it was, although don't remember specific discussions. The
>bootstrap policy was always intended as a short term experiment to find
>out what was needed in the longer term. Not discussing IXPs' needs would
>have been odd.

They were discussed, but getting acceptance of the concept that IXPs are 
neutral, with the idea of a single "upstream" not really applying, was a 
struggle.  We at the IXPs could see it, obviously.

>> But aside from the fog over the timescale, can you give us a quick
>> run-down of the relevance to this issue of "running code"? After all,
>> the purpose of this list (and the WG) is to foster co-operation and
>> capacity building with other stakeholder groups not familiar with IETF
>> (and other technical) jargon.
>
>As I see it, running code is a synonym for "things that work" and
>developing things that work generally requires prototyping, testing and
>revision. I think this is a good example of a process that tested a
>policy, found where it needed to be improved for the general case (ISP
>use) and also came up with other policies that supported edge cases, like
>IXPs and root DNS servers (ripe-223).

"Things that work" is a good alternative description, because it doesn't 
quite so much imply you have to make a physical working prototype (which 
several people I've spoken to assume is the case) to test the concept - 
debating it in the abstract is good enough.
-- 
Roland Perry