[cooperation-wg] cooperation-wg Digest, Vol 23, Issue 9

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+1 (or actually +2) from me,

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>    1. Re: (no subject) (Erika.Hersaeus at pts.se)
>    2. Re: [connect-bof] On Consensus and Humming in the IETF
>       (Gert Doering)
>    3. Re: DNS-based filtering (Carsten Schiefner)
>    4. Re: DNS-based filtering (Gordon Lennox)
>    5. Re: DNS-based filtering (Patrik F?ltstr?m)
>    6. Re: DNS-based filtering (Meredith Whittaker)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 13:56:09 +0000
> From: <Erika.Hersaeus at pts.se>
> Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] (no subject)
> To: <bastiaan.goslings at ams-ix.net>, <nihb at netflix.com>
> Cc: cooperation-wg at ripe.net, Richard.Leaning at europol.europa.eu,
> 	paf at frobbit.se
> Message-ID: <F9B35F1FF22AED4B9198995E2F969B801D2F436C at maildb01>
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> Dear all,
> 
> Both have my support!
> 
> Kind regards,
> Erika
> 
> -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
> Fr?n: cooperation-wg-bounces at ripe.net [mailto:cooperation-wg-bounces at ripe.net] F?r Bastiaan Goslings
> Skickat: den 7 november 2013 10:26
> Till: Nina Bargisen
> Kopia: Bastiaan Goslings; cooperation-wg at ripe.net; Leaning, Richard; Patrik F?ltstr?m
> ?mne: Re: [cooperation-wg] (no subject)
> 
> +1from me too
> 
> -Bastiaan
> 
> 
> On Nov 7, 2013, at 10:14 AM, Nina Bargisen <nihb at netflix.com> wrote:
> 
> > +1 
> > 
> > Nina 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Patrik F?ltstr?m <paf at frobbit.se> wrote:
> > I support.
> > 
> >   Patrik
> > 
> > On 6 nov 2013, at 19:24, Leaning, Richard <Richard.Leaning at europol.europa.eu> wrote:
> > 
> > > As explained in my previous email, I would like to reach consensus on appointing Alan van Gaever and Meredith Whittaker as co-Chairs of the RIPE Cooperation WG.
> > >
> > > Please respond with your support or any objections for the proposed candidates no later than 3 weeks from the date of this email.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Maria H?ll
> > > co-chair Cooperation WG
> > >
> > > CEO SUNET - Swedish University Network
> > > Email: maria at sunet.se
> > > Mobile: +46 70 535 41 38
> > > Web: www.sunet.se
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Maria,
> > >
> > > Both these nominations have my support.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Dick
> > >
> > > Richard leaning
> > > Cyber Community Engagement
> > > European Cyber Crime Centre (EC3)
> > > Europol
> > >
> > > Richard.leaning at europol.europa.eu
> > > +31 638769131
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> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 13:44:37 +0100
> From: Gert Doering <gert at space.net>
> Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] [connect-bof] On Consensus and Humming
> 	in the IETF
> To: Jim Reid <jim at rfc1035.com>
> Cc: Richard Barnes <rlb at ipv.sx>, "connect-bof at ripe.net"
> 	<connect-bof at ripe.net>,	"cooperation-wg at ripe.net"
> 	<cooperation-wg at ripe.net>
> Message-ID: <20131107124437.GS81676 at Space.Net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 07:01:32PM +0000, Jim Reid wrote:
> > On 6 Nov 2013, at 17:04, Nick Hilliard <nick at inex.ie> wrote:
> > 
> > > On 06/11/2013 17:03, Richard Barnes wrote:
> > >> One thing to keep in mind: This document does not yet have IETF consensus. 
> > >> In fact, opinions I've heard are pretty varied.
> > > 
> > > yes, have they been adequately addressed by the author?
> > I'm not sure if there's consensus on that. :-)
> 
> We'll go along with it anyway!
> 
> Gert Doering
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2013 16:00:30 +0100
> From: Carsten Schiefner <ripe-wgs.cs at schiefner.de>
> Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] DNS-based filtering
> To: cooperation-wg at ripe.net
> Message-ID: <527BAB0E.5020305 at schiefner.de>
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> 
> All -
> 
> anyone willing to take the lead for this?
> 
> Best,
> 
> 	-C.
> 
> On 30.10.2013 11:27, Niall O'Reilly wrote:
> > 	Hello.
> >
> > 	Erika's mention of the need "to decrease the gap in the dialogue between governments and the technical community"
> > 	and a current thread on the bind-users mailing list made me wonder whether the report I mention in the message
> > 	below is as well known as I think it deserves to be outside the DNS technical community and certain parts of the
> > 	wider French Internet community.
> >
> >
> > 	Best regards,
> > 	Niall O'Reilly
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 19:29:09 +0100
> From: Gordon Lennox <gordon.lennox.13 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] DNS-based filtering
> To: "cooperation-wg at ripe.net" <cooperation-wg at ripe.net>
> Cc: Carsten Schiefner <ripe-wgs.cs at schiefner.de>
> Message-ID: <5C08C362-0AD6-426A-A2B5-51E277B2A05A at gmail.com>
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> I have already been talking to folk in the Council of Europe in Strasbourg on this, among other things. Their focus is on cross-border / human rights.
> 
> Gordon
> 
> On 7 Nov, 2013, at 16:00, Carsten Schiefner <ripe-wgs.cs at schiefner.de> wrote:
> 
> > All -
> > 
> > anyone willing to take the lead for this?
> > 
> > Best,
> > 
> > 	-C.
> > 
> > On 30.10.2013 11:27, Niall O'Reilly wrote:
> >> 	Hello.
> >> 
> >> 	Erika's mention of the need "to decrease the gap in the dialogue between governments and the technical community"
> >> 	and a current thread on the bind-users mailing list made me wonder whether the report I mention in the message
> >> 	below is as well known as I think it deserves to be outside the DNS technical community and certain parts of the
> >> 	wider French Internet community.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 	Best regards,
> >> 	Niall O'Reilly
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 20:35:24 +0100
> From: Patrik F?ltstr?m <paf at frobbit.se>
> Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] DNS-based filtering
> To: Gordon Lennox <gordon.lennox.13 at gmail.com>
> Cc: "cooperation-wg at ripe.net" <cooperation-wg at ripe.net>,	Carsten
> 	Schiefner <ripe-wgs.cs at schiefner.de>
> Message-ID: <6FAFA412-FB21-4738-8B82-9472593D0D3C at frobbit.se>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> May I for domain blocking with the help of DNS also recommend reading of SSAC document SAC-050 and SAC-056:
> 
> <http://www.icann.org/en/groups/ssac/documents>
> 
>    Patrik F?ltstr?m
>    SSAC Chair
> 
> On 7 nov 2013, at 19:29, Gordon Lennox <gordon.lennox.13 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I have already been talking to folk in the Council of Europe in Strasbourg on this, among other things. Their focus is on cross-border / human rights.
> > 
> > Gordon
> > 
> > On 7 Nov, 2013, at 16:00, Carsten Schiefner <ripe-wgs.cs at schiefner.de> wrote:
> > 
> >> All -
> >> 
> >> anyone willing to take the lead for this?
> >> 
> >> Best,
> >> 
> >> 	-C.
> >> 
> >> On 30.10.2013 11:27, Niall O'Reilly wrote:
> >>> 	Hello.
> >>> 
> >>> 	Erika's mention of the need "to decrease the gap in the dialogue between governments and the technical community"
> >>> 	and a current thread on the bind-users mailing list made me wonder whether the report I mention in the message
> >>> 	below is as well known as I think it deserves to be outside the DNS technical community and certain parts of the
> >>> 	wider French Internet community.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 	Best regards,
> >>> 	Niall O'Reilly
> >> 
> > 
> > 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 15:53:38 -0500
> From: Meredith Whittaker <meredithrachel at google.com>
> Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] DNS-based filtering
> To: Patrik F?ltstr?m <paf at frobbit.se>
> Cc: Gordon Lennox <gordon.lennox.13 at gmail.com>,	Carsten Schiefner
> 	<ripe-wgs.cs at schiefner.de>,	"cooperation-wg at ripe.net"
> 	<cooperation-wg at ripe.net>
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> 
> A bit +1 to Niall's call for sharing more technical clarity with
> policymakers (and the world). This seems like a very positive direction for
> this group.
> 
> An overall suggestion -- I think it would make sense to frame such as
> document as an examination of content blocking (pertinent social issue
> whose importance is clear to people who may not know what DNS is). After
> announcing the scope, we then enumerate the technical issues (explain DNS!)
> and methods and concerns. I.e. create a technical guide to a
> politically/socially relevant issue, making it easier for non-experts to
> recognize its importance, and recognize how to profitably connect the
> information contained to pending decisions (etc.).
> 
> With that, I would be happy to help whoever leads pull together a draft,
> but I don't have the expertise to lead drafting.
> 
> Cheers,
> Meredith
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Patrik F?ltstr?m <paf at frobbit.se> wrote:
> 
> > May I for domain blocking with the help of DNS also recommend reading of
> > SSAC document SAC-050 and SAC-056:
> >
> > <http://www.icann.org/en/groups/ssac/documents>
> >
> >    Patrik F?ltstr?m
> >    SSAC Chair
> >
> > On 7 nov 2013, at 19:29, Gordon Lennox <gordon.lennox.13 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I have already been talking to folk in the Council of Europe in
> > Strasbourg on this, among other things. Their focus is on cross-border /
> > human rights.
> > >
> > > Gordon
> > >
> > > On 7 Nov, 2013, at 16:00, Carsten Schiefner <ripe-wgs.cs at schiefner.de>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> All -
> > >>
> > >> anyone willing to take the lead for this?
> > >>
> > >> Best,
> > >>
> > >>      -C.
> > >>
> > >> On 30.10.2013 11:27, Niall O'Reilly wrote:
> > >>>     Hello.
> > >>>
> > >>>     Erika's mention of the need "to decrease the gap in the dialogue
> > between governments and the technical community"
> > >>>     and a current thread on the bind-users mailing list made me wonder
> > whether the report I mention in the message
> > >>>     below is as well known as I think it deserves to be outside the
> > DNS technical community and certain parts of the
> > >>>     wider French Internet community.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>     Best regards,
> > >>>     Niall O'Reilly
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Meredith Whittaker
> Program Manager, Google Research
> Google NYC
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