[cooperation-wg] [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE response to Terrorist use of the Internet - CleanIT

Steve,

I strongly believe we do not need a new WG to address this. You are 
correct that this matter doesn't strictly fit into the AA-WG Charter, 
it's more an accident of timing that brought us together. Nobody has 
raised an objection before now, but if the community would prefer this 
to be dealt with by another WG, we can easily work on that.

I would also point out that both the RIPE community and the RIPE NCC 
have clearly demonstrated their interest in this process and project. We 
have been active participants since the beginning of the project and 
both Tobias and I were at the meeting in Brussels, as were Athina 
Fragkouli and Andrew de la Haye from the RIPE NCC. There is no question 
that the people involved in this project would involve both the NCC and 
the community in any future work.

I'm not sure what kind of response you had in mind?

Brian
Nash, Steve wrote the following on 01/02/2013 10:51:
> CleanIT (www.cleanitproject.eu/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Reducing-terrorist-use-of-the-internet.pdf ) seems to me to be a useful report asking governments to facilitate awareness and fund "referral units",  and "Internet Companies" to provide reasonable end-user feedback mechanisms on suspected Terrorist Internet use.
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> - Terrorist use of the Internet is not a subject that fits into the remit of any one RIPE WG.
> - One might consider such use to be Abuse, but the current charter of Anti Abuse excludes dealing with illegal content.
> - This subject may also be considered to require specialist attention that not all members of any existing WG would wish to follow.
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> Do we need a new WG, or do we need a sub-WG list within an existing WG?
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> I do think it is important that RIPE responds to the report in some way, otherwise RIPE will be considered as disinterested, and not necessarily engaged in future dialogue.
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> Regards
> Steve Nash
> Steve.nash at theiet.org
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: cooperation-wg-bounces at ripe.net [mailto:cooperation-wg-bounces at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Patrik Fältström
> Sent: 31 January 2013 12:34
> To: Brian Nisbet
> Cc: cooperation-wg at ripe.net; anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net
> Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] CleanIT Update
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> Brian,
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> I am sure many people on the coop wg is interested in this work, so thank you for copying the mailing list.
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>     Patrik Fältström
>     Co-chair cooperation working group
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> On 31 jan 2013, at 12:55, Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet at heanet.ie> wrote:
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>> Colleagues,
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>> (And cross posted to the Cooperation WG as it may be something interesting for them also.)
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>> You may be aware of the the CleanIT project http://www.cleanitproject.eu/
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>> This project has presented to the AA-WG at two RIPE meetings and Tobias and I said we would keep the working group up to date. The final document of the project was officially published yesterday in Brussels and handed over to the EU Counter Terrorism Coordinator Gilles de Kerchove. More information, including a download link for the document can be found here:
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>> http://www.cleanitproject.eu/final-document-clean-it-published/
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>> It is unclear at present whether there will be any follow-up to the project, but various parties wish to investigate possibilities.
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>> If there are any further moves or projects to come out of this, we will let the AA-WG know.
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>> Brian
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