<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><br class="">On 23 Oct 2019, at 22:04, Michael Richardson <<a href="mailto:mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca" class="">mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">My high-level take (which I haven't managed to formulate) is that we must</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">ask/counsel that in the different connection points, what the expected</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">ownership of liability is. Maybe that's a "US"-centric point of view, so my</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">understanding is the European view would ask: "who does the regulator fine”.</span></div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div>Dear colleagues,</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Just to say thank you for all the positive responses I received both here on list, as well as In private conversations, much appreciated. I also would like to thank those who have made comments to the contents of the draft, making suggestions towards a possible response.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Partially responding to Michael’s question above and some other things raised over the course of last week. Let me try and clarify a few points.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>First towards the process, me and my colleagues are of course available to help with the drafting, serving in our role as secretariat. I’m also happy to chime in on this list with some on-the-fly editing or too summarise responses, if the community appreciates that. But of course, as explained in my presentation, we need some clear guidance from the community on the contents to start this drafting process.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>To Micheal’s question and some other comments regarding the expected outcome. I don’t think at this stage BEREC is aiming to get a single solution, the draft lists a few different options and I expect that most will remain in the final version. My current assessment is that they are mostly seeking feedback on the rationale for the different scenarios and the criteria under which diversions from a particular ruleset are allowed.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>I don’t feel this is about “who to fine?”, obviously in the end this is about regulation and there might be repercussions for entities that are found in breach of the law. However this is not in BEREC’s mandate at the moment. The aim for this process, and BEREC’s role here, is really to create some consistency in interpretation of this directive and the resulting legislation, also in how to resolve conflicts with other texts. Especially since it rubs against some other directives, most importantly the net neutrality one, which might be a source of conflict where one directive says A and the other says B.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>The EECC in this context I think is a bit more loosely defined than the net neutrality guidelines, which appear a bit less open to interpretation. At the same time, the current draft guidelines on the NTP to seem to take the account the “technical realities” a bit more, where it tries to identify reasons why diversions would be allowed.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Hope this clarifies and looking forward to your feedback on the text.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br class=""></div><div>MarcoH</div></body></html>