[connect-wg] BCOP for the use of IRR DBs in IXP RS - Last call

Please correct me if I'm wrong about my logic and naive about my proposal
here:

If this BCOP is implemented by an IXP, then the IXP would have to tell all
their peers to create route(6) objects in their RIR if they do not have it.
At the same time, those peers would have to tell their customers to create
objects in their RIR and so on. The time of that process in the BCP first
draft is calculated as a grace period of 12 months (of course it can be
reviewed).

So, there is an effort on the IXPs and on the peers to educate
customers that can be used to educate them in signing ROAs. These users
would have to login in their RIRs anyway. If I were a lazy AS
administrator, I would rather create an ROA with 3 or 4 clicks than learn
RPSL.




On Sun, Jun 9, 2024 at 1:20 PM Stavros Konstantaras <
stavros.konstantaras at ams-ix.net> wrote:

> Difficult but not impossible, right?
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> Maybe a reasonable counter-proposal would be to delay the removal of RADB
> for an extra year until a common API is adopted or a proxy tool is
> developed ?
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> Technical solutions exist, is a matter of willingness and I would love to
> see initiatives into that direction rather seeing ourselves rely on
> convenient solutions.
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> Kind Regards
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> Stavros
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> *From: *connect-wg <connect-wg-bounces at ripe.net> on behalf of Arturo
> Servin via connect-wg <connect-wg at ripe.net>
> *Date: *Friday, 7 June 2024 at 09:51
> *To: *Barry O'Donovan (Open Solutions) <barry at opensolutions.ie>
> *Cc: *Connect-WG <connect-wg at ripe.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [connect-wg] BCOP for the use of IRR DBs in IXP RS - Last
> call
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> On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 11:21 PM Barry O'Donovan (Open Solutions) <
> barry at opensolutions.ie> wrote:
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> Hi all,
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> One comment I did make was that it was paradoxical, on one hand, to
> bemoan the depeering of large network(s) from route servers and discuss
> how IXPs could engage to bring them back while, on the other hand,
> trying to implement a practice which would dictate how and where they
> should register their routing objects.
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> And this will definitely won't help to bring them back (and probably
> nothing will but we can try ... )
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> As I mentioned in my previous email, as stated in the MARNS for CDN/Cloud
> providers their approach for the same problem is different and possibly
> incompatible.
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> In a perfect world where all RIR support and have the same APIs to manage
> IRR objects, this could have an opportunity, but in the current state of
> affairs for IRR management in RIRs, I think it is difficult.
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> Regards
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> as
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