[coc-tf] Updated CoC Process Document

Hi again,

This discussion is also taking place on Telegram (see attached). I
believe some of you are on that channel?

On one hand some people may be misreading the sentence as it is quoted
as "try their best" where it actually says "will do their best".

On the other hand, people are suggesting to use a stronger word such as
MUST. And possibly "confidential" instead of "discreet".

Regards,
Mirjam




On 03/02/2023 09:59, Mirjam Kuehne wrote:
>
> Hi Leo, Hi all,
>
> I just received this comment on LinkedIn (after publishing my latest
> report on RIPE Labs which contained a short section on the progress of
> the Code of Conduct Task Force):
>
> "Thank you for sharing. However, how can the CoC be trusted or the
> people who are part of it, when in the rules it is clearly stated
> that: “members of the CoC team will do their best to be discreet”!!!
> This is extremely worrying. The choice of words imply that there is
> room for not being discreet and acting in the best interest of the
> people who raise concerns. How can anyone trust this?"
>
> This is in reference to the last sentence in section 3. Report is
> Assessed.
>
> Is this something you could clarify - in the document and/or directly
> to the person on LinkedIn?
>
> Kind regards,
> Mirjam
>
> On 02/02/2023 15:24, Leo Vegoda wrote:
>> It looks like we just have the two clarifications to incorporate into
>> this draft. When the RIPE NCC has done that, we can publish it to the
>> community.
>>
>> The clarifications are:
>>
>> 1) In the section on submitting the report, use language that allows
>> for reports to be submitted using any reasonable communication method.
>> The example given was a video conference. The key outcome should be a
>> clear report that can be acknowledged and acted on.
>>
>> 2) In the section on appeals, use clearer language to describe an
>> appeal to the RIPE Chair on the broader CoC Team's review of the
>> initial team's decision.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Leo
>>
>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 at 07:25, Brian Nisbet<brian.nisbet at heanet.ie>  wrote:
>>> Yes, thank you, Kjerstin!
>>>
>>> I've made two comments on the document. One is probably just a note for us all and the future Team, the other is a possible minor piece of disambiguation.
>>>
>>> Overall I'm very happy.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> Brian Nisbet (he/him)
>>>
>>> Service Operations Manager
>>>
>>> HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network
>>>
>>> 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland
>>>
>>> +35316609040brian.nisbet at heanet.ie  www.heanet.ie
>>>
>>> Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: coc-tf<coc-tf-bounces at ripe.net>  on behalf of Leo Vegoda<leo at vegoda.org>
>>> Sent: Monday 30 January 2023 14:32
>>> To: Kjerstin Burdiek<kburdiek at ripe.net>
>>> Cc:coc-tf at ripe.net  <coc-tf at ripe.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [coc-tf] Updated CoC Process Document
>>>
>>> CAUTION[External]: This email originated from outside of the organisation. Do not click on links or open the attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for sharing the updated draft, Kjerstin!
>>>
>>> TF, please review the draft and either leave comments in the document
>>> or respond here with a +1. We need to identify any final changes we
>>> should make. Once we have a final document, we'll share it with the
>>> community and ask for comments.
>>>
>>> Please get your comments in by Thursday, 2 February.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Leo
>>>
>>> On Thu, 26 Jan 2023 at 04:50, Kjerstin Burdiek<kburdiek at ripe.net>  wrote:
>>>> Dear TF members,
>>>>
>>>> Here’s the updated CoC process document. Please add any comments you have about final changes that are needed before publication:
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/158OtFlKlt5Zv1kqZCzr8LFibkNs2mDYKRa0RNTFiq_w/edit
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Kjerstin
>>>> --
>>>> coc-tf mailing list
>>>> coc-tf at ripe.net
>>>> https://mailman.ripe.net/
>>> --
>>> coc-tf mailing list
>>> coc-tf at ripe.net
>>> https://mailman.ripe.net/
>> --
>> coc-tf mailing list
>> coc-tf at ripe.net
>> https://mailman.ripe.net/
>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: Telegram-CoC.png
Type: image/png
Size: 627455 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: </ripe/mail/archives/coc-tf/attachments/20230203/b827d9eb/attachment-0003.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: Telegram-CoC2.png
Type: image/png
Size: 232707 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: </ripe/mail/archives/coc-tf/attachments/20230203/b827d9eb/attachment-0004.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: Telegram-CoC3.png
Type: image/png
Size: 410694 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: </ripe/mail/archives/coc-tf/attachments/20230203/b827d9eb/attachment-0005.png>