[bcop] Mutually beneficial or altruistic?

On 17/01/2017 21:15, William Waites wrote:
>> • For Internet Access providers, consider offering, as the default
>> entry level Internet Access Service, something which does not allow
>> external DNS / NTP resolution, to limit some of the methods
>> available to 'malware' that gets on to consumer systems. (mutually
>> beneficial)
>
> Using external DNS servers is an easy way to avoid some kinds of
> censorship (i.e. that which is implemented in the DNS). What you are
> really saying here is that users should have to pay more for an
> uncensored service. Are you seriously advocating this as a best
> practice? It’s not April 1st yet, I don’t think.

Hey,

<with my co-chair hat off, speaking as a member of community>

This is not the best possible idea, I agree. There are other ways how to 
mitigate malware DNS queries from end-users, not just simply blocking them.

>
>> • Customers that have totally free access to the Internet represent
>> additional risk to you, the ISP.  For customers that want the full
>> experience, cover your additional risk mitigation costs.
>> (altruistic)
>
> Either I am misunderstanding, or you are using words in a very
> non-standard way.
>
> "willingness to do things that bringadvantages to others, even if it
> results in disadvantage for yourself"
> https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/altruism
>
> What you seem to be describing is, in fact, the opposite of
> altruism,
>
> "the act of considering the advantage to yourself when making
> decisions, and deciding to do what is best for you"
> https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/self-interest

I think we need to do ":0,$s/altruism/self-interest/g" in Steve's email ;)

Cheers, Jan

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