RE: [anti-spam-wg] Non-cooperation of RIPE ISP in investigating report of email abuse (spam)

["brett" brett@localhost]

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> Subject: Re: [anti-spam-wg] Non-cooperation of RIPE ISP in
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> report of email abuse (spam)
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> And I'm also not entirely sure I'm willing to.  Please take the rest
of
> this paragraph with a big "as I see it" caveat; I could keep peppering
> that all through the following, but it gets repetitive and cumbersome.
> This is actually part of RIPE's job (where "RIPE" means the entity
that
> assigns resources, collects payment, enters into contracts with (eg)
> LIRs - is this what some of you have been calling the NCC?).  For me
to
> do it amounts to my doing their work for them, without even getting
> paid to.  They're being paid to manage these resources, which
involves,
> or should involve, exactly this sort of thing.  I am not, and I find
> myself reluctant to volunteer to do for free a job someone else is
> being paid to do but is shirking.  (Okay, end of "as I see it" mark.)
> 

Taking you're "as I see it" throughout the above my response would be
that you are seeing it incorrectly. This is not part of the RIPE NCC's
job unless the RIPE community form a policy which goes through the PDP
process succesfully, then and only then could the RIPE NCC start pulling
resources for non compliance to the policy. The RIPE NCC are being paid
to abide by the policies set and as such they are currently doing a good
job. Forming policy within the RIPE community is not a job that anybody
gets paid for.
My tip would be to view some of the webcasts on the RIPE website so that
you fully understand the difference between RIPE and the RIPE NCC.

Brett