Re: ORBS ?

[Gunnar Lindberg <]

The other alternative is that ISPs start dealing with this.

Make sure there are contracts dealing with abuse/spam AND MAKE USE OF
THESE CONTRACTS WHEN NEEDED (sorry for the upper case, but a great part
of the problem is that ISPs prefer keeping their custommers and the
income they represent, rather than keeping the Internet alive to
continue making money). The UUNET case is a fairly good example - OK,
have at least RIPE members (ISPs) take unified action against them.

Creating a blackhole chaos means baby goes with the water.

	Gunnar

>From owner-anti-spam-wg@localhost  Wed Sep  9 09:20:41 1998
>Date:         Wed, 09 Sep 98 09:19:14 +0200
>From: Herman Van Uytven <Herman.VanUytven@localhost
>Message-Id: <9809090719.AA10277@localhost>
>Subject:      Re: ORBS ?
>To: Gunnar Lindberg lindberg@localhost, anti-spam@localhost,
>        owner-anti-spam-wg@localhost

>>I disagree. The intiative per se, ORBS, MAPS RBL, what_have_you, is
>>doomed to *SUCCEED*!!! It will have as side effect that soon we will
>>no longer be able to exchange email in a useful fashion:
>What's the other option ?  Do nothing, get a spam/normal mail
>ratio of 5/1, and everyone will stop to use E-mail.

>-Herman-