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Re: ORBS ?


On Tue, 8 Sep 1998, Piet Beertema wrote:

> But whereas RBL at least offers some `guarantee'
> that you won't end up on their list without proper
> investigation and quick removal if you didn't or
> no longer belong on the list, ORBS doesn't really
> offer anything like that. Fortunately sofar no ISP
> seems to base its blocking policy on ORBS.

Actually, no external party could guarantee the things you want. Since 
ORBS is based on whether the system is an open relay or not, thorough 
investigation is not needed, just a check if the relay is open or not.

I've reported quite a few systems to ORBS (or actually the previous 
version of the blacklist), and they seemed to get entered into the system 
pretty fast and removed as well after they got fixed (fast = a matter of 
minutes).

IMHO policy based blacklist raises a lot more suspicions, as is the case 
with MAPS RBL. There has been questions whether the people responsible 
for MAPS are into pay from UU.NET since they haven't blocked uu.net even 
though they've been unable to stop TCPS spamming using their relays.
 

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