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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Suresh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">It might be helpful to discuss this with them. I�m sure there are *<b>some</b>* things that they could do without putting it to the members, but there�s a lot of things that would
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<b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, 13 May 2024 at 14:44<br>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Seeking Input on the Future of the Anti-Abuse Working Group<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">RIPE NCC doesn�t really need member input or consensus to change a lot of this. Certainly not in tightening or enforcing due diligence procedures rather than charging 50 euro an
ASN<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi Michele<br>
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> RIPE currently does not have the power to do a lot of things. The WG <br>
> cannot magically change that.<br>
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This is the old merry go round.<br>
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Maybe RIPE NCC needs to change certain things, or it will be changed for <br>
them. The WG could provide guidance and suggest possible avenues where <br>
RIPE needs/should change. RIPE can then still ignore that. Believe it or <br>
not: Organizations can change.<br>
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So if you say you don't want to discuss this, fine. But don't blame it <br>
RIPE not being able to change.<br>
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Best<br>
Serge<br>
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Dr. Serge Droz<br>
Member, FIRST Board of Directors<br>
<a href="https://www.first.org">https://www.first.org</a><br>
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