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<p class="p1"><span class="s1">organisation: </span><span class="apple-converted-space"> 
</span><span class="s1">ORG-NL608-RIPE</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">org-name: </span><span class="apple-converted-space">     
</span><span class="s1">Next Limited</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">country:</span><span class="apple-converted-space">       
</span><span class="s1">HK</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">address:</span><span class="apple-converted-space">       
</span><span class="s1">Rm 1405, 135 Bonham Strand Trade Centre, 135 Bonham Strand</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">address:</span><span class="apple-converted-space">       
</span><span class="s1">HK</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">address:</span><span class="apple-converted-space">       
</span><span class="s1">Sheung Wan</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">address:</span><span class="apple-converted-space">       
</span><span class="s1">HONG KONG</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">phone:</span><span class="apple-converted-space">         
</span><span class="s1">+44 20 8159 8328</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">admin-c:</span><span class="apple-converted-space">       
</span><span class="s1">NEX7-RIPE</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">tech-c: </span><span class="apple-converted-space">       
</span><span class="s1">NEX7-RIPE</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">abuse-c:</span><span class="apple-converted-space">       
</span><span class="s1">NEX7-RIPE</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">mnt-ref:</span><span class="apple-converted-space">       
</span><span class="s1">TELECOM-MNT</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">mnt-by: </span><span class="apple-converted-space">       
</span><span class="s1">RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">mnt-by: </span><span class="apple-converted-space">       
</span><span class="s1">TELECOM-MNT</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">org-type: </span><span class="apple-converted-space">     
</span><span class="s1">LIR</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">created:</span><span class="apple-converted-space">       
</span><span class="s1">2024-03-22T10:50:27Z</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">last-modified:</span><span class="apple-converted-space"> 
</span><span class="s1">2024-03-26T15:17:14Z</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">source: </span><span class="apple-converted-space">       
</span><span class="s1">RIPE # Filtered</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hahah I used to live just down the road from this back in 2001-02 in Hong Kong.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Serviced / coworking office space on the lines of a Regus, Mailboxes Etc etc.  Dozens of companies all crowded into that single room.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Reminds me of when RIPE was handing out /14s for the asking to various quite anonymous LIRs and then those ranges would get stuffed with snowshoe spam.  Back then I seem to remember
 someone right here telling me “v4 is running out anyway, v6 is the future” when I raised this.  
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I’d asked what’d happen if this same thing happened with v6 and got told that there’s so much v6 space around, worrying about IP shortages was just a waste of time. [paraphrasing
 here].  Somewhat similar to the “oh, we’ll never run out of v4, here, have another class C” from back in the good old days.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">That last thread was just over a decade ago if I remember right.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">--srs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="color:black">anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Natale Maria Bianchi <nmb@spamhaus.org><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, 12 April 2024 at 5:51</span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black">PM<br>
<b>To: </b>anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[anti-abuse-wg] On "very" fast IPv6-growing entities<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">This specific case is not involved with observed abuse, but it elicited my curiosity.<br>
It is not the first time that I see such things, and I'd like to see what other<br>
people think.<br>
<br>
A GB entity with a ukrainian director, incorporated on 23 March 2024, gets an ASN<br>
(AS215158) assigned by RIPE NCC on 05 April 2024, and now, just a week later, they<br>
are announcing no less than ten /29 IPv6 networks regularly assigned to them:<br>
<br>
2a11:e8c0::/29<br>
2a11:ea80::/29<br>
2a11:ff40::/29<br>
2a12:1040::/29<br>
2a12:2e80::/29<br>
2a12:3c00::/29<br>
2a12:8580::/29<br>
2a12:8a00::/29<br>
2a12:9300::/29<br>
2a12:d080::/29<br>
<br>
That is quite a bit of space, indicating the entrance in the field of a large<br>
communication company making a large investment on infrastructure in preparation<br>
for a sizable number of users. So you look for their website, but in vain.  They do not<br>
even expose their domain in the RIPE database, just a mailbox on a freemail.<br>
<br>
So my curiosities are:<br>
- what will this huge IPv6 space be used for?<br>
- what is the business area of this company?<br>
- can any individual easily grab ten /29's just for the fun of it, since there are<br>
  plenty of them (2^29) before we need to think about 512-bit IPv8? <br>
- shouldn't the intended usage be made publicly visible somehow, so that the community<br>
  can see how and why the space is used, and statistics can be made? (if it is already,<br>
  I apologize and will appreciate pointers).<br>
<br>
Natale M Bianchi<br>
Spamhaus Project<br>
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