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<div dir="ltr">LEA especially the computer crime part of LEA has been dealing with RIRs for some decades now?</div>
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<div dir="ltr">The specifics of this case would be interesting. </div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Michele Neylon - Blacknight via anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 10, 2024 3:02:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Serge Droz <serge.droz@first.org>; anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [anti-abuse-wg] LEA Transparency Report 2023</font>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Serge</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The report speaks about French LEA asking RIPE for data that RIPE does not have.
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">You then go off on some complete tangent about governments not being satisfied with tech companies.</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">How are the two related?</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">What purpose does asking RIPE (or anyone else) for data they simply do not have serve?</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">A much more rational explanation is that LEA simply do not understand what data RIPE (or others) have and that maybe the solution is to educate them.
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I have heard from some in LEA that the amount of engagement from RIPE, ICANN etc., in the past couple of years has reduced, though that�s purely anecdotal.
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Regards</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Michele</span></p>
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