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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Suresh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The devil is in the details�.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Michele <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:-webkit-standard;color:black">Mr Michele Neylon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:-webkit-standard;color:black">Blacknight Solutions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:-webkit-standard;color:black"><a href="https://blacknight.blog/"><span style="color:#0563C1">https://blacknight.blog/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:-webkit-standard;color:black">Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:-webkit-standard;color:black">Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:-webkit-standard;color:black">Personal blog: <a href="https://michele.blog/"><span style="color:#0563C1">https://michele.blog/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:-webkit-standard;color:black">Some thoughts: <a href="https://ceo.hosting/"><span style="color:#0563C1">https://ceo.hosting/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:-webkit-standard;color:black">Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black">Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, 10 April 2024 at 10:38<br>
<b>To: </b>Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com>, Serge Droz <serge.droz@first.org>, anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [anti-abuse-wg] LEA Transparency Report 2023<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">LEA especially the computer crime part of LEA has been dealing with RIRs for some decades now?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">The specifics of this case would be interesting. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">--srs<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces@ripe.net>
on behalf of Michele Neylon - Blacknight via anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 10, 2024 3:02:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Serge Droz <serge.droz@first.org>; anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [anti-abuse-wg] LEA Transparency Report 2023</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Serge</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The report speaks about French LEA asking RIPE for data that RIPE does not have.
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<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">You then go off on some complete tangent about governments not being satisfied with tech companies.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">How are the two related?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">What purpose does asking RIPE (or anyone else) for data they simply do not have serve?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">A much more rational explanation is that LEA simply do not understand what data RIPE (or others) have and that maybe the solution is to educate them.
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<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I have heard from some in LEA that the amount of engagement from RIPE, ICANN etc., in the past couple of years has reduced, though that�s purely anecdotal.
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<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Michele</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Mr Michele Neylon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Blacknight Solutions</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Hosting, Colocation & Domains</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><a href="https://www.blacknight.com/"><span style="color:#0563C1">https://www.blacknight.com/</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><a href="https://blacknight.blog/"><span style="color:#0563C1">https://blacknight.blog/</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Personal blog: <a href="https://michele.blog/"><span style="color:#0563C1">https://michele.blog/</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Some thoughts: <a href="https://ceo.hosting/"><span style="color:#0563C1">https://ceo.hosting/</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">I have sent this email at a time that is convenient for me. I do not expect you to respond to it outside of your usual working hours.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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