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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Serge<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">As I said, it’s an odd attempt at making a point, if that’s what it is.
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<b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Serge Droz <serge.droz@first.org><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, 10 April 2024 at 10:38<br>
<b>To: </b>Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com>, anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [anti-abuse-wg] LEA Transparency Report 2023<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Hi Michele<br>
<br>
As I said: They may make a point. Maybe they don't understand what RIPS<br>
dies. But that's an assumption, and the tech community tends to<br>
underrate authorities, so don't count on it.<br>
<br>
Best<br>
Serge<br>
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On 10.04.24 11:32, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:<br>
> Serge<br>
><br>
> The report speaks about French LEA asking RIPE for data that RIPE does<br>
> not have.<br>
><br>
> You then go off on some complete tangent about governments not being<br>
> satisfied with tech companies.<br>
><br>
> How are the two related?<br>
><br>
> What purpose does asking RIPE (or anyone else) for data they simply do<br>
> not have serve?<br>
><br>
> A much more rational explanation is that LEA simply do not understand<br>
> what data RIPE (or others) have and that maybe the solution is to<br>
> educate them.<br>
><br>
> I have heard from some in LEA that the amount of engagement from RIPE,<br>
> ICANN etc., in the past couple of years has reduced, though that’s<br>
> purely anecdotal.<br>
><br>
> Regards<br>
><br>
> Michele<br>
><br>
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> Mr Michele Neylon<br>
><br>
> Blacknight Solutions<br>
><br>
> Hosting, Colocation & Domains<br>
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> <a href="https://www.blacknight.com/">https://www.blacknight.com/</a> <<a href="https://www.blacknight.com/">https://www.blacknight.com/</a>><br>
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><br>
> Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072<br>
><br>
> Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090<br>
><br>
> Personal blog: <a href="https://michele.blog/">https://michele.blog/</a> <<a href="https://michele.blog/">https://michele.blog/</a>><br>
><br>
> Some thoughts: <a href="https://ceo.hosting/">https://ceo.hosting/</a> <<a href="https://ceo.hosting/">https://ceo.hosting/</a>><br>
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> Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business<br>
> Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845<br>
><br>
> I have sent this email at a time that is convenient for me. I do not<br>
> expect you to respond to it outside of your usual working hours.<br>
><br>
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Dr. Serge Droz<br>
Member, FIRST Board of Directors<br>
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