<html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"> <style></style> </head> <body lang="EN-IN" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"> <div class="WordSection1"> There really isn’t much possible regardless of the rechartering.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> There is one section of wg members opposed to taking action of almost any sort that is proposed by members of another section of the wg members.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Tinkering with who the chairs are or what the charter is will not have any effect on this, you need a professional negotiation or conflict resolution person.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> --srs<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div id="mail-editor-reference-message-container"> <div> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"> From: anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Carlos Friaças via anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net> Date: Sunday, 24 March 2024 at 6:22 AM To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Seeking Input on the Future of the Anti-Abuse Working Group<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Hi everyone, My 2 cents: I'm clearly for option 1. Cheers, Carlos On Thu, 21 Mar 2024, Alessandro Vesely wrote: > Hi chairs, all, > > I think this is a great working group. Periods of silence are physiological; > for example, they may arise after a thorough discussion about a proposed > point which is eventually found to be unfeasible. The idea to force every > abuse-c to actually receive email messages and act on them suits that > example. > > If there are security topics that the current charter doesn't cover, > re-chartering is certainly a good idea. The chairs are great, especially > Brian, and I see no reason to select new ones. Closing the working group > would be a matter of regret and I hope it's not going to happen. > > > Best > Ale > > > On Thu 21/Mar/2024 10:09:00 +0100 Markus de Brün wrote: >> >> Dear Anti-Abuse Working Group Members, >> >> >> As Co-Chairs, we have been carefully monitoring the discussions on the >> mailing list and are concerned about the current state of stagnation and >> lack of progress. >> >> After consideration and discussion among the Co-Chairs, we believe it is >> necessary to initiate a dialogue regarding the future direction of our >> working group. Some action is needed to revitalise our efforts. >> >> >> The Co-Chairs have discussed a number of options, both between ourselves >> and with the RIPE Chair Team. However, due to the lack of general >> engagement, and the circular conversations on the list, we see three viable >> options at this point:: >> >> >> 1. >> >> Re-charteringthe working group, possibly transitioning it into a >> Security >> Working Group to broaden our scope and address related concerns >> comprehensively. (The current charter can be found here: >> <a href="https://www.ripe.net/community/wg/active-wg/anti-abuse/">https://www.ripe.net/community/wg/active-wg/anti-abuse/</a> >> <<a href="https://www.ripe.net/community/wg/active-wg/anti-abuse/">https://www.ripe.net/community/wg/active-wg/anti-abuse/</a>>) >> >> 2. >> >> It is possible we are simply the wrong Co-Chairs at the wrong time, so >> we >> can step-downand allow the working group to select new Co-Chairs. >> >> 3. >> >> Closing the working groupif consensus cannot be reached on a viable >> path >> forward. >> >> >> It may be that there are people in the Working Group who are eager to >> propose new policies, or embark on a project to systematically examine the >> abuse ecosystem, but over the last year or so, there has been no evidence >> this is the case. >> >> >> However, we firmly believe that the best course of action is to engage all >> members of the Anti-Abuse Working Group in an open and transparent >> discussion about the challenges we face and the opportunities for positive >> change. Your input and perspectives are invaluable in shaping the future of >> our community. >> >> >> Therefore, we are inviting you to participate actively in this crucial >> conversation. We encourage you to share your thoughts, suggestions, and >> concerns regarding the current state of the working group and your vision >> for its future direction. >> >> >> Your input will help inform our next steps and guide the evolution of the >> Anti-Abuse Working Group. We encourage you to share your feedback openly on >> the mailing list so that all members can participate in the conversation. >> We hope to discuss the status at RIPE88. >> >> >> Thank you for reading this far. We look forward to your active >> participation in shaping the future of the Anti-Abuse Working Group. >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Brian, Tobias, Markus > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change > your subscription options, please visit: > <a href="https://mailman.ripe.net/">https://mailman.ripe.net/</a> ><o:p></o:p> </div> </div> </div> </div> </body> </html>