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<p dir="auto">On 18 Jan 2024, at 6:46, Hank Nussbacher wrote:</p>
</div><div class="plaintext" style="white-space: normal;"><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 5px; padding-left: 5px; border-left: 2px solid #777777; color: #777777;"><p dir="auto">I have heard so often that RIPE NCC's job is to *not* police the Internet. Then I heard John Curran's keynote at NANOG in October:
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The Expanding Landscape of Internet Governance: Why Network Operators Need a Global View
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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Ip39Qv-Zk" style="color: #777777;">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Ip39Qv-Zk</a>
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and realize that over the next decade we will be handed EU edicts that will far exceed anything we thought possible.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Thanks, Hank, for nudging me. Watching John's keynote has been on my TODO list<br>
since Randy Bush encouraged people to look at it in his RIPE87 presentation<br>
<a href="https://ripe87.ripe.net/archives/video/1144/" style="color: #3983C4;">"The RIR Social Contract"</a>.</p>
<p dir="auto">John's keynote is both excellent and relevant.</p>
<p dir="auto">John takes the concept of "respective roles" from the Tunis Agenda,<br>
and points out that regulation and compulsion fall within the role of<br>
government. He cites examples of engagement with government in other<br>
industries, where technical professionals develop codes and norms,<br>
which remain voluntary best practices until they are referenced by<br>
and mandated in legislation or regulation. He presents this model<br>
as the way ahead for engagement between the technical professionals<br>
of the Internet ("us", if I may put it like that), and the various<br>
agencies of Government.</p>
<p dir="auto">John also cites a couple of the norms we have already, BCP38 and<br>
MANRS, as examples of useful and relevant work which this technical<br>
community has already done. He urges us (see above) to engage with<br>
government, communicating how norms we have already developed might<br>
be relevant to problems which they need to address, and taking<br>
account of their goals in areas where further technical norms may<br>
be needed.</p>
<p dir="auto">It's significant for me that John is not urging us to expect<br>
the RIPE NCC, or other RIRs, either to take on a policing role<br>
or to make their administrative processes more onerous, but<br>
rather to engage with government to understand their goals,<br>
and to continue developing and promoting technically sound<br>
good practices.</p>
<p dir="auto">As Hank says, unless you've done so already,</p>
</div><div class="plaintext" style="white-space: normal;"><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 5px; padding-left: 5px; border-left: 2px solid #777777; color: #777777;"><p dir="auto">Take the 45 minutes and listen to John.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Best regards,</p>
<p dir="auto">Niall O'Reilly<br>
RIPE Vice-Chair</p>
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