<html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=Windows-1252"> </head> <body> <div dir="ltr"> <div></div> <div> <div dir="ltr">Well if ripe allows the creation of bogus LIRs with little or no oversight and these then go ahead and do all the evil sure, let’s not blame ripe for it. </div> <div id="ms-outlook-mobile-signature"> <div><br> </div> <div style="direction:ltr">--srs</div> </div> <div> </div> <hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%" tabindex="-1"> <div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><b>From:</b> Gert Doering <gert@space.net><br> <b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 19, 2024 2:15 PM<br> <b>To:</b> Carlos Friaças <cfriacas@fccn.pt><br> <b>Cc:</b> Gert Doering <gert@space.net>; Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com>; Anti-abuse Wg <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Bulletproof servers causing mischief on the internet <div> </div> </font></div> Hi, <br> <br> On Fri, Jan 19, 2024 at 08:38:27AM +0000, Carlos Friaças wrote: <br> > Please check this WG's minutes at RIPE77 (October 2018): <br> > https://www.ripe.net/community/wg/active-wg/anti-abuse/minutes/ripe-77/ <br> > <br> > I briefly presented about "LIRs from Outside the RIPE NCC Service Region". <br> > <br> > If my mind doesn't fail me, at the time most of the "nonsensical <br> > information" was related to locations outside the RIPE NCC Service Region. <br> <br> So there is LIR contact data in the RIPE DB which is not properly validated <br> - and that should certainly be brought to the NCC's attention, and fixed. <br> <br> This is still far from Suresh' usual claim "the NCC is complicit to all <br> the IPv4 gangsters out there, doesn't validate anything, and the DB is <br> full of fake data". Which is being repeated frequently, to the point <br> of being outright detrimental because it just annoys, without spurring <br> anyone into corrective action. <br> <br> Gert Doering <br> -- NetMaster <br> -- <br> have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? <br> <br> SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael Emmer <br> Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann <br> D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) <br> Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 <br> </div> </div> </body> </html>