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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Gert<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I think a lot of us were not going to accept ANY changes to the charging scheme that time round.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Anyway .. history now ..
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Michele<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:-webkit-standard;color:black">Mr Michele Neylon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On 02/11/2023, 10:39, "Gert Doering" <gert@space.net> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 09:29:52AM +0000, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">> The ASN cost for us would have had practically no impact ? we only have two and I suspect we?re getting rid of one at some point.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">> However the other costs that the charging schemes suggested would have cost us thousands ? and that simply wasn?t acceptable<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">ASN charges yes/no were their own voting item, fully independent on<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">the charging scheme A/B/C/D vote.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">(Resolution 4 vs. Resolution 3)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><a href="https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2023/draft-minutes-of-the-general-meeting-may-2023">https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2023/draft-minutes-of-the-general-meeting-may-2023</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">But maybe the question itself was loaded and biased...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">"Resolution 4:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> "In addition to the RIPE NCC Charging Scheme adopted in Resolution 3,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> the General Meeting adopts an extra charge of EUR 50 per ASN as an<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> integral part of the Charging Scheme 2024."<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">naming this an "extra charge" *without* being very clear that it's not<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">going to change the overall budget (= by implication, the individual<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">charges on model A, B, C, D need to become lower) does, indeed,
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">suggest that it will be "more expensive".<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">*sigh*<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Time for retirement,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Gert Doering<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> -- NetMaster<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">-- <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael Emmer<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279<o:p></o:p></p>
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