<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Brian!</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the welcome. Don't worry. I understand that this group is focused on networking and not content. I'm here because the disinformation campaigns we investigate sometimes rely on technical abuse. Again, I'm really here to educate myself on the work of operators!</div><div><br></div><div> thanks again!<br></div><div><br></div><div>Claire<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 at 10:54, Brian Nisbet <<a href="mailto:brian.nisbet@heanet.ie">brian.nisbet@heanet.ie</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <div dir="ltr"> <div style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> Claire,</div> <div style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br> </div> <div style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> Welcome to the RIPE AA-WG working group!</div> <div style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br> </div> <div style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> The DisInfo group looks interesting and there's definitely good work to do there! I should note, however, that the AA-WG is not really intended to look at the content on websites or applications, rather the abuse of network resources as per the charter:</div> <div style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br> </div> <div style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <a href="https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/active-wg/anti-abuse" target="_blank">https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/active-wg/anti-abuse</a><br> </div> <div style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br> </div> <div style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> Now, this is constantly evolving and there are areas of overlap, and often companies that are willing to host extremely disagreeable content (for certain values of same) are willing to host those who would abuse other networks or have not perhaps the most open or transparent relationship with those who have given them the resources needed to do business.</div> <div style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br> </div> <div style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> I would be very happy to discuss this further with you or your colleagues (as I would be with any member of the WG).</div> <div style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br> </div> <div style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> Thanks,</div> <div style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br> </div> <div style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> Brian</div> <div style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> Co-Chair, RIPE AA-WG</div> <div style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br> </div> <div> <div id="gmail-m_-1453881816488523834Signature"> <div> <div id="gmail-m_-1453881816488523834divtagdefaultwrapper" dir="ltr" style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif"> <p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"> Brian Nisbet </p> <p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"> Service Operations Manager</p> <p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"> HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network</p> <p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"> 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland</p> <p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"> +35316609040 <a href="mailto:brian.nisbet@heanet.ie" target="_blank">brian.nisbet@heanet.ie</a> <a href="http://www.heanet.ie" target="_blank">www.heanet.ie</a></p> <p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"> Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 </p> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div id="gmail-m_-1453881816488523834appendonsend"></div> <hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%"> <div id="gmail-m_-1453881816488523834divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt" face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> anti-abuse-wg <<a href="mailto:anti-abuse-wg-bounces@ripe.net" target="_blank">anti-abuse-wg-bounces@ripe.net</a>> on behalf of Claire Pershan <<a href="mailto:cp@disinfo.eu" target="_blank">cp@disinfo.eu</a>><br> <b>Sent:</b> Thursday 4 February 2021 08:49<br> <b>To:</b> Ronald F. Guilmette <<a href="mailto:rfg@tristatelogic.com" target="_blank">rfg@tristatelogic.com</a>><br> <b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net" target="_blank">anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net</a> <<a href="mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net" target="_blank">anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net</a>><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [anti-abuse-wg] REPORT: DDoS-Guard - AS57724, AS262254, AS49612</font> <div> </div> </div> <div> <p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"></p> <div style="background-color:rgb(255,202,202);width:100%;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(156,101,0);border-width:1pt;padding:2pt;font-size:10pt;line-height:12pt;font-family:"Calibri";color:black;text-align:left"> <span style="color:rgb(156,101,0)">CAUTION[External]:</span> This email originated from outside of the organisation. Do not click on links or open the attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe.</div> <br> <p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"></p> <div> <div dir="ltr"> <div>Hi Ronald, all,</div> <div><br> </div> <div>I might jump on this as an opportunity to introduce myself, having just joined this mailing list. I work on policy and community relations at EU DisinfoLab, a small research-focused NGO that mainly tracks coordinated disinformation campaigns targeting the EU and member states. Parler's move to DDOoS-Guard is clearly on our radar as this is not the first or last of this kind of 'migration' we'll see. Many civil society organisations like mine lack technical literacy in this area and end up contradicting ourselves in our positions, so I'm here with an open ear. My background is in human rights and I was an ISOC youth ambassador last year.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>looking forward to exchanging with you all here,</div> Claire<br> </div> <br> <div> <div dir="ltr">On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 at 02:32, Ronald F. Guilmette <<a href="mailto:rfg@tristatelogic.com" target="_blank">rfg@tristatelogic.com</a>> wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> I hope that you all will read this report:<br> <br> English version:<br> <a href="https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeduza.io%2Fen%2Ffeature%2F2021%2F01%2F29%2Fremove-this-infection-from-your-network&data=04%7C01%7C%7C8c2d4a217c994dd9f33308d8c8e9d1b3%7Ccd9e8269dfb648e082538b7baf8d3391%7C0%7C0%7C637480254323069372%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=kKU5cAysehXh2aUEGPlPxn4cSkEmzVWuiqXz7jaRKWU%3D&reserved=0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://meduza.io/en/feature/2021/01/29/remove-this-infection-from-your-network</a><br> <br> Russian version:<br> <a href="https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeduza.io%2Ffeature%2F2021%2F01%2F28%2Fuberite-etu-zarazu-iz-svoey-seti&data=04%7C01%7C%7C8c2d4a217c994dd9f33308d8c8e9d1b3%7Ccd9e8269dfb648e082538b7baf8d3391%7C0%7C0%7C637480254323079337%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=KRda4b2nSwZbK%2BJGpoCCWbyiZ9N8Y79v%2BMsFMeq8zSc%3D&reserved=0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://meduza.io/feature/2021/01/28/uberite-etu-zarazu-iz-svoey-seti</a><br> <br> <br> Regards,<br> rfg<br> <br> </blockquote> </div> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote></div>