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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 17, 2020 2:39:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Marcolla, Sara Veronica <sara.marcolla@europol.europa.eu>; Maxi <maxi@zeug.co>; JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net><br>
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<div>It is very interesting what you say, every day we have attacks and problems related to cyber attacks, where the only action we can do is protect ourselves, there is no mechanism to fight hackers, we always depend on the goodwill of other colleagues in
Europe they handle abuse emails, which unfortunately most of the time is useless.<br>
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<div>Many times we have hackers perfectly located, many are kids with a lot of ability to annoy, but little to protect themselves (we often find them in forums)</div>
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<div>We need a direct route of contact, with guarantees that something can be done, something that is not at a political level, such as in this group, where ripe members can only collaborate with each other, but beyond that there is nothing that RIPE can do
to help us in this situations.</div>
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<div><span style="font-size:12pt">Javier</span><br>
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<p style="color:#AAAAAA; margin-top:10px">Sobre 17/04/2020 10:54:58, Marcolla, Sara Veronica <sara.marcolla@europol.europa.eu> escribió:</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">Hi Maxi,</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">Technical innovation can be harnessed for social good, but just as readily for nefarious ends. This is truer of cybercrime than of perhaps any other crime
area. And cybercriminals are also getting more aggressive. That’s why Europol and its partner organisations are taking the fight to them on all fronts.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">Encouraging all members of the Internet community to join the fight against crime is one of the objectives of the Cybercrime centre, and working together
with public-private partnerships is the best way to achieve these results. If you are interested, you can find out more on our official website:
<a href="https://www.europol.europa.eu/crime-areas-and-trends/crime-areas/cybercrime">
https://www.europol.europa.eu/crime-areas-and-trends/crime-areas/cybercrime</a>.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#00245D">Kind regards,</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#00245D"> </span></b></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#00245D">Sara Marcolla</span></b></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#00245D">Europol -
</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#00245D">O3 European Cyber Crime Centre (EC3)</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#00245D"><a href="http://www.europol.europa.eu/"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">www.europol.europa.eu</span></a></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces@ripe.net>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Maxi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 April 2020 10:43<br>
<b>To:</b> anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE NCC Executive Board election</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">If so, please have in mind that the RIPE NCC has to follow certain court rules. The RIPE NCC should stay neutral, because only courts could decide if something is illegal or not.</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">//Maxi</p>
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