<html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"> <style></style> </head> <body lang="EN-IN" link="blue" vlink="purple"> <div class="WordSection1"> I am not a member. However, the increase in such incidents and the risk of regulators or lawsuits occurring mean that RIPE NCC does need to perform more due diligence than would be consistent with a “we are not the internet police” position. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> It is in their own members’ interest that they’re able to detect when some malefactor approaches them with clumsily forged paperwork, newly created shell companies pretending to be companies that were dissolved two decades ago etc and tries to hijack a netblock.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> If a bank manager were to extend loans based on such paperwork with maybe as much due diligence appears to be performed during transfers..<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> --srs<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> From: anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces@ripe.net> Date: Friday, 3 January 2020 at 6:08 PM To: Sergey Myasoedov <sergey@devnull.ru>, Nikolas Pediaditis <npediaditi@ripe.net> Cc: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] [routing-wg] An arrest in Russia<o:p></o:p> <div> Sergey You DO NOT speak for all members. Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains <a href="https://www.blacknight.com/">https://www.blacknight.com/</a> <a href="https://blacknight.blog/">https://blacknight.blog/</a> Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: <a href="https://michele.blog/">https://michele.blog/</a> Some thoughts: <a href="https://ceo.hosting/">https://ceo.hosting/</a> ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 On 02/01/2020, 19:34, "anti-abuse-wg on behalf of Sergey Myasoedov via anti-abuse-wg" <anti-abuse-wg-bounces@ripe.net on behalf of anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net> wrote: Hi Nikolas, Thank you for your explanation, I appreciate it. > On 2 Jan 2020, at 14:29, Nikolas Pediaditis <npediaditi@ripe.net> wrote: > > With regards to implementing policies and procedures, we apply them as equally and neutrally as possible, but we also consider it reasonable and sensible to take extraordinary circumstances into account. On this occasion, RIPE NCC Management reviewed a case in which new information had come to light and it decided to act as it saw necessary and appropriate. I do believe that the extraordinary circumstances are when the ER department is involved in the process. But usually RIPE NCC don't perform the rollback of transfers. In the case we've seen, two members are still active, no M&A deal, but suddenly Ministry of foreign affairs got involved, crime investigation is ongoing... In the similar circumstances in Kazakhstan (2018-2019) the NCC decided not to make any statements in the court and didn't revert the transaction until the Supreme court made its decision. The unpredictability of the NCC's actions don't make the members happy. -- Kind regards, Sergey Myasoedov <o:p></o:p> </div> </div> </body> </html>