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<div style="direction: ltr;">I might just introduce a counter proposal to retire mutt / pine / elm type console clients and their quoting styles. I am not entirely sure why such a triviality based on an outmoded convention is side tracking the discussion here.</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">In any case, the argument has been put forward that all LIRs are legitimate organizations with overworked abuse desk personnel whose jobs shouldn't be made harder.</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">That statement unfortunately stands or falls by the first part of it, that all LIRs are legitimate. It seems entirely possible for anybody at all to register a company and follow the paperwork required to become a LIR and then
allocate /14s at a time back in the day and maybe smaller netblocks now to malicious actors. </div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">With several countries in the RIPE region that have a major crime and corruption problem, no extradition or mlat treaties with the US or Europe and some that have used internet crime as a method of waging war in the past, it is
the very last assumption you must base your policies on, let alone mailing list arguments.</div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="dir="ltr""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Gert Doering <gert@space.net><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 17, 2019 3:46 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> JORDI PALET MARTINEZ<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Brian Nisbet; Gert Doering; Suresh Ramasubramanian; anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [anti-abuse-wg] 2019-04 New Policy Proposal (Validation of "abuse-mailbox")
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Hi, <br>
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On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 12:13:12PM +0200, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: <br>
> Anyway, this is a curious thing ... last week I was asked in the LACNIC meeting policy session to avoid responding in-line to emails about policy discussions.
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"If you go to Rome, do as the romans do" = "follow local customs" <br>
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And Outlook *can* do that. <br>
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