<html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><style></style></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>This is more in the line with the one that I submitted in other regions (coming also for RIPE, I think this week or next one), that has been already accepted (being implemented) by APNIC:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/proposals/prop-125<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><br>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>De: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces@ripe.net> en nombre de Fi Shing <phishing@storey.xxx><br><b>Fecha: </b>martes, 5 de marzo de 2019, 12:28<br><b>Para: </b>"Ronald F. Guilmette" <rfg@tristatelogic.com>, <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net><br><b>Asunto: </b>Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>Yes, the verification mechanism they chose to implement was a flop, with no input required from address owners.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>In reality, it should be "verify your email address by clicking this link once a week or your resources are decommissioned within 24 hours" but alas, that would make too much sense.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="http://abuse.net">abuse.net</a> lists these contacts for mesh digital:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="mailto:abuse@meshdigital.com">abuse@meshdigital.com</a> (for <a href="http://meshdigital.com">meshdigital.com</a>)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="mailto:noc@meshdigital.com">noc@meshdigital.com</a> (for <a href="http://meshdigital.com">meshdigital.com</a>)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="mailto:ripe@netsumo.com">ripe@netsumo.com</a> (for <a href="http://meshdigital.com">meshdigital.com</a>)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:6.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' id=replyBlockquote><div id=wmQuoteWrapper><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>-------- Original Message --------<br>Subject: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ?<br>From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" <<a href="mailto:rfg@tristatelogic.com">rfg@tristatelogic.com</a>><br>Date: Tue, March 05, 2019 8:55 am<br>To: <a href="mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net">anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net</a><br><br><br>Sorry folks, when this topic was discussed, I confess that I wasn't<br>really paying much attention. So now I am forced to ask: Was someone<br>going to verify the abuse contact addresses listed in the RIPE WHOIS<br>data base?<br><br>If so, how is that project coming along?<br><br>I'll tell you why I ask. It's quite simple really. Some jerk, probably<br>Mexican, just sent me a spam wherein he was advertising for sale his<br>list of 18 million "business" email addreses. (I can't quite tell if<br>those are all supposed to be specifically Mexican email addrses or what...<br>because the spam was written in Spanish, and I don't speak Spanish.)<br><br><a href="https://pastebin.com/raw/dT11krpN">https://pastebin.com/raw/dT11krpN</a><br><br>Note that the specific email address of mine that was spammed was one that<br>I only used in ancient times, and only in conjunction with my activities<br>on one specific web site. (It obviously leaked somehow.)<br><br>The envelope sender address was forged to be my own.<br><br>The source IP was 109.68.33.19 as you can see. So naturally, I performed<br>a RIPE WHOIS query on that IP address and the results I got back indicated<br>that the contact email address for spam reports was <<a href="mailto:abuse@meshdigital.com">abuse@meshdigital.com</a>>.<br>So I emailed off a report to that address.<br><br>Of course, it bounced back to me immediately as undeliverable.<br><br>This causes me to suspect that either (a) that stuff that I thought that<br>I has seen previously about a project to verify abuse addresses was all<br>just a bunch of malarkey, or else (b) that project is still unfinished<br>and perhaps not going all that well.<br><br>Could someone please enlighten me and tell me which possibility actually<br>applies?<br><br><br>Regards,<br>rfg<br><br><br>P.s. It is annoying enough to have to lookup who the bleep should<br>receive a report about spamming from their network _and_ to have to<br>even write such reports, when 9 time sout of ten, the sending network<br>could have easly prevented the spam from even going out. It is just<br>adding insult to injury when the bloody "official" abuse reporting<br>address doesn't even actually exist.<br><br>And of course, neither <a href="http://meshdigital.com">meshdigital.com</a> nor <a href="http://meshdigital.net">meshdigital.net</a> even have<br>functioning web sites.<br><br>Apparently this is all the work of some dolts at a company called <a href="http://heg.com">heg.com</a>,<br>in Germany. Do any of you happen to know any of the clueless nitwits<br>who work there? 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